Thanks for clarifying that Todd. I think you sent me the same thing some time ago, but I couldn't find the post.
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Appal Energy wrote: > Guess we need to define "small," "medium," "large" and > "producer." > > Small - 100-500 gallons a day - 35,000-175,000 gallons per year > (?) > Medium - 750-1000 gallons a day - 265,000-350,000 gallons per > year (?) > Large - 1,500 plus gallons a day - 525,000 plus gallons per year > (?) > > "producer" - anyone distributing off-road or on-road fuel for > profit (?) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: girl mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:24 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] BD Business and Ability to be > Profitable-- does big vs small matter? > > > > any idea on how many small producers we';re talking about in the > us? > > Mark > > > At 03:48 PM 11/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello again. One charge that I have heard public policy folks > levy at small > >producers is along the following lines: "Small producers can't > make their > >production business really profitable, so they're not going to > be able to > >contribute significantly to mass-market conversion from fossil > fuels to > >biofuels... Therefore, since our policy goal is to maximize the > use of > >cleaner domestically produced fuels, when considering policy and > public > >support for BD, we'll seek to support large producers first and > foremost." > > > >I have also spoken with small producers who themselves say that > they're not > >sure how they'd make a profit... > > > >So, I'd like to know have your thoughts, whether in agreement or > in > >rebuttal, regarding whether there is truth in this assertion, > and also > >regarding what the public policy relevance should or should not > be if it > >were true. And if it is not true, then what/who are the success > stories in > >terms of profitable small-scale production and distribution? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Andrew Hoppin > >The Biofuel Business Development Project > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biofuel-Business-Plan/ > >Dedicated to Making An Immediate Impact > >On the Long-Range Future of Humanity > >------------------------------------ > >N Space Labs, Inc. > >Vizualize Your Business > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >646.221.5602 (mobile) > >158 Lafayette St. 2nd Floor > >NY, NY 10013 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrew Hoppin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:34 PM > > > To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: big vs small: quality assurance > > > > > > > > > Hi folks. I'm learning a lot from the ongoing lively > debate-- > > > thank you. > > > > > > Regarding the issue that has been at hand-- whether big > producers > > > deliver better quality and reliability than small producers > or > > > not, and whether any quality differences are cause for > concern > > > among potential consumers or not: it seems to me that one > way to > > > nip this in the bud REGARDLESS of whether there are valid > > > concerns or not would be to have a credible BD fuel quality > > > testing service, perhaps with some public funding and perhaps > > > with modest fees paid by producers, perhaps on a > sliding-scale > > > based on the size of their revenues. If a producer wished to > be > > > "certified" that their fuel was top-notch, they could avail > > > themselves of this service by sending fuel samples (each > month?) > > > and fleet managers, consumers, and anyone else who cares > would > > > have an objective answer to their quality concerns, whether > or > > > not those concerns are valid. Has this ever been undertaken? > > > > > > If not, would such a service effectively serve the purpose > I've > > > outlined, and in what form (government, non-profit, or > > > for-profit) would such a service be most effectively > delivered? > > > > > > Andrew Hoppin > > > The Biofuel Business Development Project > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Biofuel-Business-Plan/ > > > Dedicated to Making An Immediate Impact > > > On the Long-Range Future of Humanity > > > ------------------------------------ > > > N Space Labs, Inc. > > > Vizualize Your Business > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 646.221.5602 (mobile) > > > 158 Lafayette St. 2nd Floor > > > NY, NY 10013 > > > > > > > >Biofuels at Journey to Forever > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuel at WebConX > >http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > >List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: > >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! 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