>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:39:05 +0100 >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Australia puts off imposing cap on ethanol in > fuel > >Australia is a significant country, but it is smaller than Brazil >and if I am not totally wrong a population less than 10% of >that of US. I think it is one of the least populated countries >in the world. Having this in mind, it is still a very important >country and they have very large incentives to reduce their >dependence of fossil fuels. They, if anyone, have the capacity >to go biofuel all around and fast. > >To maintain the independence and sovereignty of Australia >should be in the best interest of the Australians and solving >energy supply problems is an important and urgent matter >for the whole world. Few countries, if any, have such good >prospects as Australia. It is maybe one of the very few >countries that could maintain an isolationistic policy to the >rest of the world. > >US for sure not, they have to continue to pillage the world >resources. Many say that they support the terrorist, by >paying low price for their pillage, but the truth is that they >themselves creates them. The policies and attitudes are >controversy but necessary, to maintain the American style >of life, carefully guarded by the Americans and called the >greatest democracy on earth. Why I mention US, is because >it is their oil interests that operate in the Australian environment. > >It would be utterly irresponsible if Australia do not take the >important and necessary steps to be energy independent. >Scaremongers tactics who use up to 80 years old American >arguments, that was already incorrect then, is an insult to >the Australian people. Hearing about this kind of tactics, >like advertising ethanol free gasoline etc. makes me mad, >this especially when ethanol is needed to replace MTBE >and this is in full implementation in US. > >To make it clear, I like Americans and America very much, >but their corporate/government foreign policies smells. Bophal >is maybe the worst case, but not uncommon on smaller scale. > >Hakan > > >At 02:51 AM 12/19/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >A complete report covering all of the applications of ethanol in > > >gasoline, in new and used engines: ERDC Project No 2511 Intensive > > >Field Trial of Ethanol/Petrol Blend in Vehicles. This trial showed no > > >harm to any engines, and documented the benefits. This is the > > >Executive Summary, compliments of Apace Research Ltd -- 10 pages, > > >32kb Acrobat file. > > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/EthanolApace.PDF > > > >Addendum: > > > >I went and looked at this after posting, as I felt remiss in not > >examining it first. It seems to make a good case for the benefits of > >ethanol at a 10% anhydrous blend and does some to address the > >allegations of negative effects on machinery. It does little to > >address what I said in my other post appears to be the brunt of the > >allegation, which is that since some are mixing in a blend much in > >excess of the much-researched 10% figure, this is causing a lot of > >damage to machinery. > > > >To go back to what it does address, it mentions that they found, under > >"materials compatability" and "engine wear" that there are no > >discerniable effects, no increased engine wear, etc., of using such a > >blend as against a regular petrol blend. As it might be useful (God I > >hate doing this; I hate the uncopy-pastability of .pdf format), I will > >quote directly (manually transcribing, sacrificing fingers for the > >cause): > > > >Begin quote: > > > >----------------- > > > >"[...] The results of this project for the 1999 fleet composition show > >that, when compared to use of neat petrol, use of 10% v/v > >ethanol/petrol blend has the following effects: > > > >[...] > >[...] > > > >-- Materials Compatibility: > > > > -- there is no discernible effect on any plastic or > >elastomer materials; and, > > -- there is no discernible corrosion in fuel wetted metal > >parts such as fuel tanks, lines, pressure regulators, etc. > > > >-- Engine Wear: > > > > -- there is no additional or unusual wear to that > >normally expected; and, > > -- there is no additional increase in wear metals or > >decrease in total base number (TBN) of the lubcricating oil. > > > >[...] > > > >---------------- > >End quote > > > >Now, there are some other passages which do give perhaps some further > >insight on the issues, and I am just not willing to transcribe more. > >For example, there is the issue of older vehicles being more prone to > >phase separation and other water issues, as well as some health > >concerns for emissions. > > > >There is also some mention of other blends, including a hydrous blend, > >and a Brazil-ish 22% blend (which sounds almost like what some > >Australians are getting whether they want it or not). > > > >But, anyway, the basic issue is left unadressed, and it just sounds > >like, going back over the last couple of months, this whole thing > >amounts to a good effort (introducing a goodly amount of ethanol use > >nationwide for Australia) is being hurt by a campaign to introduce it > >in an overly aggressive and somewhat technologically irresponsible way > >which might theoretically result in enough of a black eye to provide a > >very serious setback. > > > >If I'm wrong, then I'm sorry for spreading what you or others might > >consider to be false information, but I'd like to do a better job of > >figuring out the issues on this. Australia, as I've said, is not > >insignificant in its alternative energy efforts. Although I don't > >have a sense of their overall fuel and energy use, this seems to me to > >be a very important project for them, to introduce such a high amount > >of ethanol to such a significant country's fuel mix, (they sure must > >travel a lot of passenger miles between some of their destinations!), > >and I think if we take some extra time to hammer out what the issues > >are for them, then those of us who are interested to do so can decide > >what we think is the right course of action for them and (just by > >writing our opinions) perhaps influence their projects and others. > > > >MM
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