Personally, no "white papers" in hand. But a Google search for 'Methane conversion Methanol' will give you weeks of bedtime reading material. Even a few methods on how to produce acetic acid, but unfortunately too much methanol is derived at the same time...Go figger!
Conversion process using landfill gas... http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/proceedings/97/97ng/ng97_pdf /NGP4.PDF Conversion process using natural gas... http://www.aeeseap.org/conf2000/contents/09/0903.pdf Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: James Slayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Burning sunflowers > It kinda sounds like they are also using some type of supercritical CO > method for oil extraction, thus leaving a somewhat clean process. > > Todd, you have links to any white papers on CO to Methanol conversion? I > haven't had much success before. > > Thanks, > > > James Slayden > > > On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Appal Energy wrote: > > > > http://reporter.leeds.ac.uk/483/s3.htm > > > > All a bit elusive... quote: > > > > "Most methods of producing hydrogen burn another fuel for energy, > > which itself creates pollution - carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides > > and other emissions," said Dr Dupont. "Our catalyst uses oxygen > > from the air to heat up naturally, and this heat is used to > > reform the oil with steam to create hydrogen. The excess carbon > > dioxide is taken into the second catalyst, then released for > > storage or use in other chemical processes, ensuring that > > damaging levels of CO2 aren't just put back into the atmosphere." > > > > "Oxygen from the air to heat up naturally..." Interesting. I > > wonder what their loss rate of catalyst, or energy cost to > > restore it if needed, or life cycle energy cost to refine it. > > > > They mention pyrolysis in a latter paragraph. Wonder where they > > get the "damaging levels of CO2? If they were using the pyrolytic > > fuels from the process itself to perpetuate stripping (not > > "creating") hydrogen they would be carbon neutral at worst, erego > > no "damaging levels of CO2." Not to say that CO2 recovery is not > > intelligent, as it could be used to produce methanol as a useable > > byproduct, among other things. > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel at WebConX > > http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > > List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Biofuel at WebConX > http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
