I see it more as some Japan's of leaders wanted to surrender on their terms, which kept those that started the war in power, and were willing to fight to the last man ( including the civilians ) to stay in power, we know what happened in Okinawa was just a precursor of what the invasion of Japan would have been like.
The bombs convinced them otherwise. >From the decoded messages the higher up, knew that we were facing a real bad invasion, and few wanted to invade. So what was it going to be, 1) Leave the militant government that started the war in place. 2) A bad invasion, with millions of casualties. ( an estimated 1 million from the allies alone ) 3) Wipe out two cities. #1 was totaly unacceptable. Treaty agreements between the Allies dictated that unconditional surrender was the only type of surrender that was going to be accepted. #2 was in some cases worst than #1, but would have achieved. #3 while distasteful, did hold down the casualties to a under 300,000. As it ended up 2 cities were totaly trashed, while if Japan was invaded, then I would bet that most cities would have ended up like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, through conventional means. I know that everyone would have been allot happier had Japan surrendered unconditionally allot sooner. Greg H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 11:08 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: [HDR] August 06, 2005 -- date of risk? > > "The critics share three fundamental premises. The first is that > Japan's situation in 1945 was catastrophically hopeless. The second > is that Japan's leaders recognized that fact and were seeking to > surrender in the summer of 1945. The third is that thanks to decoded > Japanese diplomatic messages, American leaders knew that Japan was > about to surrender when they unleashed needless nuclear devastation." > > Strange place to find it, I doubt it's close to Mr Kristol's heart, > nor to Mr Murdoch's, but it's correct nonetheless. > > Best > > Keith > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
