Earl,

Why I asked?

I am Swedish and have lived and worked in 8 countries including US, worked in 25 and visited 60+ more. I found many things that I liked and some things that I disliked in all of them. I can make myself understood in 5 languages, not including the Danish and Norweigian which are very close to Swedish.

A big majority in all countries, are very proud of their country and would not want to live anywhere else. The less international experiences they have, the more staunch their opinions are. The Americans do not want to live anywhere else and especially not in a country like the "socialist" Sweden. The Swedes do not want to live anywhere else and especially not the undemocratic US, where money is the only power. Yet, I have never found any countries that has so much in common as US and Sweden, this even if Sweden have a higher general living standard, according to UN and US statistic. That is also why Americans who live in Sweden generally like it very much and the same for Swedes who live in US.

What I want to get to, is that you should avoid to have those unqualified opinions about other countries. It is amazing how a little bit international experiences can make you more humble and appreciate that we are all people that basically like each other, once when we get the opportunity to meet. There are also many very good places to live, independent of what you think of their political label.

Visited Vietnam last year and it was amazing how Americanized and unsafe the south still was, compared to the north. As a whole, it was a very positive experience and interesting to see the places that I for years followed in the news. They will develop fast and in a positive direction.

Hakan


At 17:16 13/08/2005, you wrote:
Keith,

I think you are confusing what I said. I perfectly agreed with you that the U.S. is not a charitable organization, and does take much more than it gives (here and abroad). I can't speak for other developing nations, as I have only lived in the U.S. (answering Harkan's question in another email). But I expect you are correct about that too. And the end result is an even bigger gap between the haves and the have-nots.

The charity I was referring to is when individuals like your or I give something (money, food, clothing, medicine, etc.) to someone else, without expecting anything in return. It would be nice to know that if I send a dollar to help provide clean water to a village in Sudan, that 90 cents isn't being sucked up by some U.S. corporation before it even gets there.

Thanks,

Earl.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No it is not charity, and this is the point you miss, I hope it's through ignorance rather than convenience, but I think it's already been pointed out to you. There is LOTS about it in the archives, and the gist of it is that all the industrialised nations, the so-called "developed" nations, and especially the US, take VERY much more than they "give" to poor countries, and even the "giving", in the form of "aid", is often or usually tied to benefiting commercial interests in the donor countries rather than benefiting poor people at the receiving end as alleged. All they get dumped on them is harsh neo-liberalism and yet more imported poverty.



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