Hi, the information I mentioned about Michigan was drawn for 
communications in this list serve from months ago.

The list archives (should) have several Michigan residents discussing 
the situation with grease collection in the state of Michigan.

There was one gentlemen who resided near Lansing, MI that I'm 
specifically thinking about now.  I just can't remember his name.


Michael Lendzian
CINS Network Support Team
Columbus State University
CINS/Center for Commerce & Technology Room 105
706.569.3044 (help desk)

----- Original Message -----
From: John I <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO collector and restaurant threatened by 
rendering company

> 
> > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:49:17 -0400
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO collector and restaurant
> > threatened by
> >     rendering       company
> > To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > 
> > Hi Frieda,
> > 
> > There are lawyers out there that HAVE worked with
> > the little guy/girl 
> > against the big renderers. You may talk to one.  I
> > learned that the 
> > restuarant should give you a receipt for the grease
> > you collect.  In 
> > some states, it is illegal for anyone who is not a
> > (state) registered 
> > renderer to collect WVO.  ie Michigan.  
> 
> Hello,
> I've been searching through the State (of Michigan)
> License Search d'base and I can't find any such
> license requirements.  Could you please shed some
> light on the specifics for me as that's my state.  The
> closest I could come up with was for a Rendering
> Plant: 
> Required State License(s):
> 
> "Any establishment that reduces dead animals to tallow
> and meat scraps, cracklings, or other items unfit for
> human consumption by cooking or processing must be
> licensed as a rendering plant by the Department of
> Agriculture, Animal Industry Division; (517) 373-1077.
> 
> Revised:  12/2002"
> 
> This specifies animal products (allbeit I dont know
> what a crackling is besides what's seen on certain
> Detroit corners) so I dont see this as pertaining to
> WVO collection/processing.  I see another regarding
> liquid industrial waste, quite broadly stated as: 
> "Liquid Industrial Waste Hauler
> 
> Required State License(s):   
> 
> When transporting liquid industrial waste from the
> premises of another contact the Department of
> Environmental Quality for further information (800)
> 662-9278.   
> 
> A Motor Carrier license is required with the Public
> Service Commission, Department of Labor & Economic
> Growth at (517) 241-6030.
> 
> However, hazardous waste transporters who have
> appropriate authorization may transport liquid
> industrial waste without obtaining a license.   
> 
> Revised:  5/2005"
> 
> Since this is exempted by a hazmat license and seems
> to cover general transportation rather then rendering
> issues it doesn't seem to be applicable either.  Past
> that the only other license I can see that would be
> even remotely conected to BioD production is:
> "Diesel Fuel Dealer
> 
> Required State License(s): 
> 
> When involved in the business of selling and
> delivering diesel motor fuel to the supply tanks of
> motor vehicles in Michigan should be registered with
> the Department of Treasury, Motor Fuel, Cigarette &
> Miscellaneous Taxes Division; (517) 636-4630. 
> 
> Diesel tanks also should be registered with the
> Department of State Police, Fire Marshall; (517)
> 322-1924. 
> 
> Revised:  4/2005"
> 
> It's 2nd paragraph that's of more particular intrest
> since they want the registration of tanks.  I assume
> this whole lincensure is specific to petrolium based
> diesel but since it is broadly stated I dont know that
> as fact.
> 
> Any legal insight to this or other BioD/WVO related
> issues (even if not specific to Michigan) would be of
> great intrest.
> Thanks,
> John
> 
> 
> Perhaps you
> > could become a blue 
> > ribbon licensed WVO renderer on the state books? 
> > Check into what it 
> > would take.
> > 
> > The renderers should have a contract with the
> > restaurant maybe?  
> > Otherwise they are way out of line.  The restuarant
> > owner should tell 
> > the renderer to take his grease bin and stick it
> > where the sun won't 
> > shine.
> > 
> > For the renderer to claim that the restuarant is
> > helping you cheat fuel 
> > taxes, is bizarre, but it's even more bizarre that
> > in the same 
> > statement that the renderer would claim that the
> > restuarant is 
> > responsible for your fuel road tax is the stupidest
> > thing that I have 
> > heard of well, since this Pat Robertson thing just
> > popped up...
> > 
> > Just my two cents...
> > 
> > Good Luck Frieda and keep us posted on how this
> > works out.  Surely we 
> > will be seeing more run in's with renderer in the
> > near future.
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > 
> > Michael Lendzian
> > CINS Network Support Team
> > Columbus State University
> > CINS/Center for Commerce & Technology Room 105
> > 706.569.3044 (help desk)
> > -------------- next part --------------
> > Hello all,
> >     The rendering company (company that collects
> > used restaurant fryer oil), issued angry verbal
> > threats to the Mom and Pop burger joint that gives
> > me their used fryer oil.  The restaurant puts their
> > used fryer oil into my buckets, and I schlep it
> > away.
> >     The renderers told the restaurant that it was
> > illegal for them to give me their used fryer oil. 
> > They demanded that the restaurant give them my name
> > and phone number.  The renderers said that it was
> > illegal for people to use fryer oil, or any other
> > non-petroleum product, for fuel without paying a
> > fuel tax to the state and feds, and that the
> > restaurant was responsible to see that that tax is
> > paid since it is their oil that is being used as a
> > fuel.  They also said there is legislation about to
> > go through the California senate that supports their
> > allegations.
> >     Thoughts?
> >     Thanks, Frieda
> 
> 
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