Ken Dunn wrote:
> 7. What is the group's collective experience? I have radiant hot water heat in my house and I'm happy enough with the system to say that I don't wish to live WITHOUT radiant heat in the future. It's probably colder where you live during the winter than it is here on the left coast, and the colder your climate, the faster the energy savings of radiant heat will pay back. We installed the plastic tubing directly beneath the floor boards on our upper floor, which was a LOT of shoulder and back breaking work! Doing this enables our upper floor to heat quickly, giving our system a faster overall response time. If you do this, however, you'll want to install grommets in the floor joists. We didn't, so whenever the boiler fires up, the plastic pipes tap against the joists. It sounds like a myriad of golf balls bouncing on the floor--not altogether unpleasant, but certainly something unnecessary. Our lower floor has its tubing buried directly in the foundation concrete. It heats up slower, but also cools down slower, so the lower floor of the house stays at a very even temperature throughout the heating season. If you can do fibernet concrete in your installation, I would recommend it. Radiant floor heat is very comfortable and energy efficient. Our house, which is among the smallest in our neighborhood, uses about forty percent of the energy for heating of a comparably sized home with forced air, and considerably less than the towering behemoths that populate our subdivision. Part of that greater efficiency, however, may stem from the fact that I sealed every join between floor and wall and caulked around every window when we built the house. (The carpenters thought I was crazy, but then, so does everyone else!) We also have R 50 cellulose blown into our attic. Our house stays nice and warm when it's cold outside, even in the nearly constant, prevailing wind that blows around up here during the winter. Another nice feature of radiant heat, is that the propylene glycol / water mix (don't use ethylene glycol) can be heated by a variety of means. You can set your boiler to heat an insulated storage tank and put in an extra coil for solar input. If the thermostat on the storage tank is set for a given temperature, your boiler will only activate when the solar thermal energy has been used first. In theory, you could tap heat from the tank for domestic hot water as well, so a single system could serve home heating and water heating. Most good boilers are more efficient than water heater tanks, engendering another savings (albeit a small one) down the road. Disadvantages include: 1. The potential for structural damage with a leak. A properly designed system SHOULDN'T leak, but then, I live in earthquake country and we have to take that risk seriously. 2. Greater initial expense for radiant heat. 3. Lag time between outdoor temperature drops and the response of the system. 4. Wood fired boilers pollute more than wood fired forced air systems because water is much more efficient at removing heat energy from the fire box. This can also result in creosote build up. If I were to build another house, I would use solar thermal storage in the foundation mass, coupled with a gasifying boiler and radiant heat. That would be efficient to operate and inexpensive to run. > 8. Might I be better off building a window mounted solar collector > initially? This might overheat the room if you're not careful. > 9. Are there other more efficient solutions? Start with insulation and draft proofing. Get good windows and use window quilts wherever possible. Once you've taken care of these easily implemented, affordable solutions, the rest will cost less money and involve less work. robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/