Nah, we'll take magical thinking and chaos over reality and reasonably orderly energy planning every time.
You watch.

Mike Weaver for President
Magical Thinking Party
2 SUVs and a Monster house for every American!

Appal Energy wrote:
You're correct Mike,

Jimmy Carter "got it."

But it wasn't what he "got" that sent the economy into a tailspin. Yes, 
it was partly his fault for failing to pay strict attention to some of 
the economic indicators soon enough. But the market took a dive largely 
due to the shakeup from the Arab oil embargo. And when you throw the 
waning confidence factor resulting from that, a hostage crisis, a failed 
rescue attempt and then a charletan such as Reagan who promises two 
fresh baked pies on every window sill, you have a recipe for a one term 
president.

Sad part is? The US economy continued to grow for nearly fifteen years 
after the nation began its intense conservation endeavors in the late 
'70s - all without increasing its oil imports by a drop for the first 
ten to twelve years of that period.

Think about all that new growth and the massive amounts of energy it 
took to create it. But all those gains were achieved primarily as a 
result of conservation and efficiency ("negawatts"). Too bad it was 
Reagan and Bush who received the free ride from that market change.

Same thing could happen again, or at least things could stabilize 
considerably. Unfortunately, George Bush wouldn't know what a "cardigan 
moment" was, much less initiate one, even if his life depended upon it.

The suggestion from this vantage point is that you grab the stand-up 
straps on this bus and prepare yourself for a hasty stop over the next 
few years. Bush's successor will be spending an inordinate amount of 
time the next four years fighting to turn markets back in the direction 
that Carter started.

And then what? The "moral" minority will manage to stuff the ballot box 
and install another puppet or two for twelve more years and run this 
ship of state aground all over again?

Gets a little old. Just waiting to see how many in this gene pool are 
smart enough to figure it out and not board the Titanic for yet another 
ride. You'd think they would have had a clue after the first trillion 
dollar record of national debt.

Todd Swearingen

  
Oh, he probably gets it.  But saying and being drummed out of office 
is something else again.  Jimmy Cartet "got it" and look what happened 
to him.

It's the vast majority of US citizens that "don't get it" and won't, 
until they have to.  People in the US are mad about gas prices, but 
they are not mad they we have no energy policy.

Tom Irwin wrote:

    
Hi Todd,
 
I vote for the devestating change to the American life style. Maybe 
everyone could just have a life.
 
Tom Irwin

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    *From:* Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
    *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
    *Sent:* Sun, 09 Oct 2005 01:34:54 -0300
    *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Sen. Lieberman: Biofuel + Plug-In
    Hybrids "on threshold of commercialization"

    Sorry folks. But Senator Lieberman just doesn't get it.

    Someone should suggest the following as mandatory viewing as his
    primer.
    http://www.endofsuburbia.com/

    Hybrids won't solve the problems we face, especially when they're
    now
    being engineered in ways that compromise their previous
    efficiency for
    acceleration capability. Even alternative fuels won't solve them.
    We've
    reached peak production at the global scale. The only way for
    demand to
    match reductions in production is immediately reduced
    consumption. That
    means no ten year lag in waiting for hybrid market share to
    increase.
    That means no ten year lag in biofuels to garner market share.

    What it does mean is an immediate concerted effort between
    conservation,
    overnight retooling of Detroit for efficiency (or else the big three
    further lose market share and quickly go belly up) and alt fuels.
    Anything less than a three pronged attack means a devastating
    change in
    "the American lifestyle."

    And we damned sure wouldn't want to disappoint or upset George
    Junior or
    Blaire by having to alter the overall American/Western lifestyle in
    order to prevent suburban collapse and general economic pandemonium,
    now would we?

    Todd Swearingen

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