Prairie Grove, Ark.  My dad got a BS in Business (56?) and never looked
back.  Seen the business end of too many miles, I guess.  I spent a lot of
time in Fayetteville.

Pretty country.  Still have family there - used to summer at Devil's Den
state park - laje weddngton - it goes on.

> Dear Mr. Mike Weaver:
> ¡Wellcome to the club!!!...
> I lived and got my master´s degree in Fayetteville, Ark. long time ago,
> back in 1973.
> I allways desidered to meet an american with at least some afinity with my
> line of thought.
> RSVP
>
> Mr. F.J. Burgos
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mike Weaver
>   To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>   Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:13 AM
>   Subject: [Biofuel] Americans ugly and otherwise...
>
>
>   Outside of my little nest here on the East Coast I feel like a stranger
> in my own land.  I go to the Midwest to visit family and I cannot and do
> not talk to them about politics..  I have come to realize, after 40
> years, that they won't and probably can't change.  I prize family above
> rhetoric.  I have finally learned it is better, in some cases to be
> happy than to be right.  OTOH, I did not live thru what they did:  WWII,
> most of them have been working since they could walk, and did not have
> the benefits I have had.
>
>   My father left Arkansas in his teens, got a degree, was drafted and got
> a PhD.  He moved East and saw to it that his childred all went to
> college and grad school.  We have all travelled overseas and in some
> cases lived and/or worked in the 3rd world.  As Mark Twain said:
> nothing is as deadly to prejudice as travel.
>
>   I have to agree with pretty much everything you say.  Except, we have no
> real foreign policy, nor do we really have an energy policy.  We have a
> bully policy.
>   No wonder 90% or the world is mad at us.  I don't blame them.
>
>   OTOH, the French are not without warts - look at West Africa.  I am also
> interested to see what happens with Western Europe with regards to their
> economies.
>   The Western European countries are belatedly realizing you can't just
> conjure an economy.  You have to have money before you can have generous
> social programs.  This what Germany and France are wrestling with now.
> I personally think a realistic economic base - fewer regulations in some
> cases - in France it's pratically illegal to start a small business, and
> God help you if you fail - you can expect to investigated for fraud no
> matter what happened.  Complain about the USll you want but you can
> start a business w/o fear of gaol.  This one of the thing we do have to
> offer as a model for other countries.
>
>   This country has a ways to go in terms of social programs.  I still
> can't believe we don't have SOME form of national health.  The current
> system is collapsing.  My sister is a doctor and I can tell you the
> current program is failing.  I also believe that we need some form child
> care - if both parents must work there must be a safe place for their
> children.  Europe is miles ahead of us here.
>
>   I rattle on...
>
>   Mike
>
>   Hakan Falk wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Ugly is your addition and I love Americans, the only thing
> that I do not like is their foreign policies, energy policies.
> and the political/economy corruption by the US corporations.
>
> By the way, I also like the French. My daughter in law and
> grandchildren are French.
>
> Hakan
>
> At 23:21 14/10/2005, you wrote:
>   !! What about us ugly Americans?
>
> Hakan Falk wrote:
>     I really like this list and its members, including the French
> and Canadian French. LOL
>
> It is fun with the sparks and the humor.
>
> Hakan
>
> At 20:52 14/10/2005, you wrote:
>
>       I generally take a shower once a month whether I need it or not.
> (in the summer of course, in the winter we can take snow baths every day)
>
> PS for all you foreigners..... underwear can be
> recycled four times (inside out, back and front)
> this is of course common sense to Canadians but
> I am sensitive to the international nature of this list.
>
> Joe
>
> Frantz DESPREZ wrote:
>
>         Mike Weaver a écrit :
>
>
>
>           M. Falk:
>
> As a person with (minor) French ancestry, I am shocked and offended at
> your suggestion that the French do not bathe regularly.
> I challenge you to defend yourself in a duel of honor.  Shampoo at
> fifty yards, the first one to achieve a glossy sheen to be declared
> the winner.
> I name as my seconds Vidal Sasoon and the Breck girl.  If the first
> duel is not satisfactory, we will rinse and repeat.
>
> Prepare to meet your suds.
>
> M. Weaver
>
>
>
>             M. Weaver,
>
> I am very grateful of your sollicitude, but be careful, scandinavians
> are famous for their weapons of mass desinfection.
> They could invite you into a steam bath until you've been cooked, before
> roll you in snow or dive in icy water.
> None a civilized gentleman as you surely are can resist such a barbarian
> treatment.
> And since Volvo refused to married Renault, we are in bad t(h)erms.
>
> M. Desprez
> ( with half of my ancestry from Normandy, so Hakan is maybe a cousin of
> mine)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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