What the real problem is: the tar sands requires the burning of a lot of fossil fuels just to get the rock solid material into a usuable form (liquid form). This is before it goes to the refinery. Green House gases are being produced before we ever burn the gasoline in our vehicles.
Terry >From: robert luis rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter >Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:43:58 -0700 > >Terry Dyck wrote: > > > Terasen was bought by a Texas company. My speculation is that having > > control of Natural Gas gives control of the Alberta tar sands oil > > production. It takes almost as much Natural Gas to melt the tar sands >oil > > rock, to make it a liquid, as they get back in oil. > > > > Terry Dyck > > I had a discussion about this topic with a former client who designs >tar sands processing facilities. He told me that a lot of work has >been done in utilizing the "leftover" bitumen as an energy source to >drive oil out of the tar sands and suggested that the process results >in a net energy gain. I didn't really follow what he was saying, as >I'm not that familiar with the process. > > As for Terasen, it doesn't matter much to me whether the company is >owned and operated from Texas or B.C. They are interested in making a >profit, hence the rate hike. That would have happened no matter who >owned the company. Perhaps you're right about the tar sands. I would >really like to get OUT of buying natural gas to heat my home. > >robert luis rabello >"The Edge of Justice" >Adventure for Your Mind >http://www.newadventure.ca > >Ranger Supercharger Project Page >http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/