Jason, > ok, obviously i touched a bare nerve
I don't think there was ever or is any "bare nerve." To me, and perhaps only to me, that implies some sort of agony, perhaps even incapacitating. That's not quite what has happened, much less continues. It did take a fair stretch of mental taffy to get a handle on what was unfolding though. But it all came down to one simple acknowledgement - when one is faced with lunacy, it's dealt with straight forward and accepted at face value. Trying to figure the loonies out is not going to alter their "reality." All a bit sad or disappointing. But once you know you're dealing with lunatics or shades of the same, there's no real "nerve" they can hit. About all they can do is force others to perform a little maintenance, such as the timeline Keith posted. > of which i know nothing about, Which was largely why Keith went to the effort to draft such a long legend of madness - and that's actually the abridged version.by about two or three thousand percent. > and apologize Not necessary when done unknowingly. There are occassionally those who intentionally try to stir the pot just for grins and giggles just to see what might come up. They would be from whom an apology might be owed. > for bringing up bad memories. sorry folks. A sad state of affairs and enormous waste of talent and time for all concerned, yes. But I wouldn't go so far as to call them bad memories. In fact? The grassroots biodiesel sector probably got a break by the mad hatters revealing themselves so readily. There's obviously some good to be had even along such a debris strewn path.. No worries Jason. Todd Swearingen Jason & Katie wrote: >ok, obviously i touched a bare nerve of which i know nothing about, and >apologize for bringing up bad memories. sorry folks. >jason >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst & continuous >processes > > >Hi Hakan > > > >>Gustl, >> >>You are absolutely right, I remember that you were not alone >>and you had strong support from me among several other members >>on the list. I have never heard Keith request or ask for donations, >>on the contrary, he have always supported the biodiesel community, >>without asking anything in return. Maybe he sometimes, with reasons, >>been quite tough with some list members that was totally out of line. >> >>Gustl and Keith, between us I am probably the oldest and as it happens >>a little bit sick now. >> >> > >I'm sorry to hear that. Please take good care of yourself Hakan. > > > >>Nothing serious, being sick will pass, contrary to >>being an idiot, as the one who calls Keith a sick old man. >> >> > >Well, yes. Thankyou. That won't pass, will it. I don't think that old >dog is going to be learning any new tricks, it's too late now. It's >terrible what some people inflict on their lives. It's hard to summon >much sympathy though, sometimes. Okay, I don't really try, it's true. > >"It's not often a person gets the chance to live a human life, it's >quite rare, one shouldn't waste such a good opportunity." - Prema, >Northern Buddhist nun. > >The slings and arrows of outrageous idiots. Never mind, I don't. > >Thankyou Hakan. Get well soon. Love to Marta. > >Regards > >Keith > > > > > >>Hakan >> >>At 16:38 07/05/2006, you wrote: >> >> >>>Hallo Keith, >>> >>>Just in case people weren't around during the time the list suffered >>> >>> >>>from the denial of service and mail flooding time let me tell that >> >> >>>when we changed servers it was me, Gustl Steiner-Zehender, who called >>>for donations to defray costs not you. I handled the money and saw >>>that it was all accounted for and properly distributed. I also was >>>responsible for receipts for donations and due to computer problems >>>and lost information I think that may have been mishandled although >>>not intentionally. I believe I still owe a fellow living in Saudi >>>Arabia a receipt for his very generous donation although it has taken >>>me a lot of remembering to come up with that. Whoever it was please >>>drop me an email and I will get that receipt out to you and please >>>forgive me for the oversight. It was definitely not intentional. >>> >>>Again, just to be clear. Keith had absolutely NOTHING to do with the >>>request for donations at all. It was all done by another "sick old >>>man" by the name of Gustl Steiner-Zehender. >>> >>>Happy Happy, >>> >>>Gustl >>> >>>Saturday, 06 May, 2006, 16:05:51, you wrote: >>> >>>...snip... >>>KA> The official sewer rat at Infopop and some other folks from there >>>KA> lurk around here at the Biofuel list archives like, well, like >>>KA> sewer rats, sniffing about and telling the same sort of stuff >>>KA> offlist to new members and inviting them to Infopop. List members >>>KA> complain about it. Here's one, we have quite a few, not only from >>>KA> this one, similar stuff from the Appleseed Queen and so on, whose >>>KA> biodiesel book Joe Street didn't seem to like much: >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>Please be aware that the vast majority of the biodiesel world holds >>>>>>Keith Addison and his Journey to Forever site in total contempt. >>>>>>Keith Addison is a sick old man who begs for money on his Journey >>>>>>to Forever site, supposedly to help the poor and needy but he >>>>>>actually uses the money donated to him for his day to day expenses. >>>>>>The Journey to Forever site is Keith's "Retirement income", is >>>>>>vastly out of date, and contains inaccurate and phony biodiesel >>>>>>information. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you are more interested in making biodiesel that listening to a >>>>>>Psychotic old man rant about the evils of the world, I suggest you >>>>>>join the Infopop biodiesel website at >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>(I have snipped the url here. I won't advertise for that lot.) >>> >>> >>>>>>Tell them a Kindly Elf sent you. >>>>>> >>>>>>Squire Tilly KE >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>...snip... >>>-- >>>Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. >>>******** >>>We can't change the winds but we can adjust our sails. >>>******** >>>The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, >>>soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, >>>without signposts. >>>C. S. Lewis, "The Screwtape Letters" >>>******** >>>Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straße liegen, >>>daß sie gerade deshalb von der gewöhnlichen Welt nicht >>>gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. >>>******** >>>Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't >>>hear the music. >>>George Carlin >>>******** >>>The best portion of a good man's life - >>>His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. >>>William Wordsworth >>> >>> > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
