Two Davids, how funny, I didn't comment about you or anything on Rush. I mearly responded to Keith's comment about the way we politicise issues. Rush is a deaf, racist, drug using moron. If he happened to say something worth while I'm sure it was on accident.
I'm not to concerned about the actual flu. I was simply pointing out the worthless tripe being spread from the dhs. If the flu mutates and a pandemic hits so be it. Its nature's way of kicking us around for a change. I have faith that the massive drug companies will come up with a costly way to cure the rich, and the rich will figure they need a few of us minions to wipe there arses, thus spreading a little cure around here and there. >David, > Please illuminate me. Which statement did I make that is complete >agreement with Rush? I think you've misread me, by a mile. Rush >said the bird flu is a hoax? I had no idea that he had the balls to >take on Rumsfeld, a major beneficiary of this hoax. But if he did >then I agree with him. Mostly I think Rush is a mouthpiece for >the Repug propaganda machine & to be avoided. >Yeah, bugs mutate. So what? Unless you have the perfect match, >the vaccine is a waste. It is better by far to keep one's immune system >in perfect working order, all the time. You are letting the Fear Machine >of our leaders get to you, imo. >Peace, D. Mindock > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:58 AM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Hidden Agenda Behind the Bird Flu Hoax > > >> D. Mindock wrote: >> >> You know, I'm just flat amazed to find Mr Mindock, whom I regarded as >> about as liberal as they come, in complete agreement with Rush Limbaugh >> and the rest of the conservative radio gang on anything. And here it >> is, in black and white. >> >> FWIW, which isn't much, I don't think bugs care at all about >> conspiracies, politics, or big drug companies. I think bugs mutate. >> Whether bird flu eventually mutates into something that can be passed >> from person to person because of agribusiness, free range birds, or pigs >> being fed infected chickens doesn't really matter once it starts to >> spread. >> >> --- David >> >>> This seems to be inline with the idea of a police state. Collect all >>> the info on citizens possible to be stored in >>> a huge database. The cuckoo bird flu scare (a hoax) is to get us to >>> accept >>> that anyone can be detained for silly reasons along with the database >>> of your airline flights. When >>> they say the data is to be maintained for at least two months, you can >>> believe it will be much longer than that. Just like >>> your online traffic through your ISP, all of it, is to be maintained >>> for at least a year thanks to a proposal by US Congresswoman DeGette >>> (D-CO). Yes, she calls herself a Democrat. We need to write our >>> Congress reps that this BS won't fly with us. It is wrong that the NSA >>> and the Pentagon are spying on us. BushCo is a fear based, secretive, >>> devisive, newspeak government that is totally controlled by corporate >>> powers. I think this is the definition of a fascist regime. No wonder >>> the world is becoming terrified of our goverment. Bush and Dead-Eye >>> Dick appear to be out-of-control. >>> Work for Peace, D. Mindock >>> >>> >>> The Hidden Agenda Behind the Bird Flu Hoax >>> >>> >>> >>> Bird FluA plan to quarantine sick airline and ship passengers in order >>> to combat a potential bird flu outbreak has outraged health experts, >>> airlines, and civil libertarians. >>> >>> *Three-Day Quarantine* >>> >>> Sick passengers would be identified by flight attendants, pilots and >>> cruise ship crews. Passengers identified as sick could be detained in >>> quarantine for as long as three days. >>> >>> *Detailed Information* >>> >>> The proposed rules would also require airlines to collect detailed >>> contact information from their passengers, including the names of any >>> traveling companions and precise information regarding travel plans. >>> The information would be stored for at least two months, and would be >>> provided to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) at any time the >>> government asked for it. >>> >>> USA Today >>> <http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-04-24-flu-quarantine_x.htm> >>> April 25, 2006 >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Dr. Mercola's Comment: >>> >>> If this news concerns you, believe me, you're not alone. Many health >>> experts, as well as airline personnel and the American Civil Liberties >>> Union (ACLU), feel the same way about the various provisions of this >>> plan. >>> >>> The ACLU argues that the plan basically gives the government a free >>> pass to detain whomever it wants to. The airline industry is balking >>> at the $100-million-plus cost of creating and maintaining the huge >>> passenger information database required. >>> >>> Georgina Graham, head of global security for the International Air >>> Transport Association, also pointed out that it's ludicrous to give >>> the job of identifying sick people to flight crews who have no medical >>> training. >>> >>> It's starting to look like there's a hidden agenda behind the >>> manufactured avian flu scare >>> <http://www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/avian_flu_epidemic_is_a_hoax.htm> >>> that goes far beyond pushing needless and potentially harmful drugs >>> that don't work anyway >>> <http://www.mercola.com/2006/feb/4/flu_drugs_dont_work.htm>. I guess >>> if you can't frighten people with a flu epidemic that never happened >>> <http://www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/rumsfeld_to_profit_from_avian_flu_hoax.htm>, >>> you can limit the rights of travelers and collect private information >>> anyway for the sake of nothing. >>> >>> *Sad but true.* >>> >>> *The entire bird flu scare is one of the most blatant hoaxes of recent >>> times, and the popular media continues to reinforce the baseless >>> story. You've been hearing about it for months and months now, and >>> what's come of it? Next to nothing. * >>> >>> *And nothing ever will, except possibly you losing more of your >>> hard-earned freedoms.* >>> >>> *We have been warned that anywhere from 200,000 (at best!) to 2 >>> million people at worst will die >>> <http://www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/avian_flu_epidemic_is_a_hoax.htm> >>> from the bird flu. The bird flu epidemic hoax reminds me just how >>> uncommon "common sense" is. Folks, where is the sound basic science >>> here? * >>> >>> *How do they make the giant leap of faith that the very few deaths so >>> far worldwide will translate to 2 million or even 200,000 deaths from >>> a virus that does NOT readily spread from birds to humans, or humans >>> to humans?* >>> >>> *Most of the people who have acquired this infection were bird >>> handlers who were in continuous contact with these sick birds. Does >>> anyone in their right mind envision similar circumstances in the >>> **United States**?* >>> >>> *Research like this would typically be thrown in the trash if it did >>> not strongly support some ulterior purpose.* >>> >>> *What might the purpose of these scare tactics be, you ask?* >>> >>> *Kickbacks to drug companies is one reason. Their drugs don't work >>> <http://www.mercola.com/blog/2005/dec/27/more_immunity_to_tamiflu>, >>> but the massive windfall from government contracts to help the >>> **United States** "prepare" against avian flu has helped their bottom >>> lines nicely, not to mention the profits of their allies in the >>> government >>> <http://www.mercola.com/2006/apr/4/donald_rumsfeld_rakes_in_5_million_for_tamiflu.htm>.* >>> >>> *And the above article points toward a second, and possibly even more >>> sinister, reason to keep us all afraid.* >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Biofuel mailing list >>> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>> >>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>> >>> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>> messages): >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >> messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
