It does pretty much work both ways... JJJN wrote:
>Ah now Mike I heard it the other way around the first time. hmm.... >wouldnt have anything to do with whos telling it would it? LOL > >I can laugh ether way though ;^) > >Mike Weaver wrote: > > > >>Joke going around political circles in DC: >> >>What's the definition of a Democrat? >>A Republican from 1950. >> >>D. Mindock wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Hi Jim, >>> >>>I was puzzled by your message. But now that I know your frame >>>of mind when you wrote it, I understand. I do know that I can >>>sound over zealous myself. You should see my friends start to yawn >>>when I rant on about the many sins of BushCo. They can't really >>>believe BushCo is that bad & dark. And like Todd said >>>a week ago, I won't win over many advocates that way. Mainly >>>I want to wake them up, but I can be too much. I get wound up when I >>>realize all the good that could be done with the money that is >>>thrown down a black hole to corporate interests; money that is >>>siphoned off from the middle class and poor. >>> >>> I think good ideas from any political party is great. (I like the >>>thoughts >>>of the Greens especially.) Mainly I love any idea/program that elevates >>>people >>>and gives them optimism and appreciation of life. >>>E.g., I hate it when art, music, and/or gym are removed from schools. When >>>I was a kid I had these courses. Now they're being eliminated due to costs. >>>These courses enriched my life a lot. >>> >>> No, we won't get good politicians until we totally revamp the >>>candidate selection process. Need to get corporate money/influence >>>out of the system. In 2004, Bush had 200+ million dollars of money >>>for his election campaign, way beyond the rest of the field. We need to >>>level >>>the playground so all candidates have the same money to use. Also >>>TV stations should allow all candidates equal and free time to get their >>>message >>>to the voters. The voting system too needs to be >>>made reliable and open to all citizens, i.e., votes cannot be manipulated >>>either >>>electronically or physically and citizens cannot blocked from voting. IMO, >>>as >>>of now, it doesn't look good for November 7. Those Diebold & ES&S machines, >>>with >>>their built-in hackable back door are in a lot of states. They've not been >>>independently >>>certified. They've failed all real tests done on them. They're designed to >>>be easily hackable. >>>See: http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ >>> >>> Voting fraud will be with us again, it appears. >>> >>>Peace, D. Mindock >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi D.. >>>> >>>>D. Mindock wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Jim, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hi D, >>>>>>No not now - this should have happened after we invaded Iraq and prior >>>>>>to the second four years. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Better late than never. We need to stop the Bush regime, now. It is a >>>>>loose cannon. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>You are certainly right about that and I pardon the pun. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>I honestly am not a progressive or a conservative. I simply listen to >>>>>>both sides of an issue and look for the truth that comes from each then >>>>>>decide where America as a people will benefit the most - NOT where I >>>>>>will benefit or where my special interests lie, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>My special interests are: fairness, life (live & let live, here and >>>>>abroad), >>>>>equal justice for all regardless of whatever, equal >>>>>opportunity for all, world-class education for all through 4 years >>>>>college; >>>>>stop the polluting of our air/water/food, low cost single payer healthcare >>>>>for all, investing in sustainable energy sources, and reducing our greatly >>>>>bloated Pentagon budget so that we can pay for all the infrastructure >>>>>repairs/upgrades needed to our social and physical fabric. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Those are worthy values, and I would like to see the same but it takes a >>>>wise and honest administration to implement them without creating a >>>>monster that in the end would not achieve the goal. I wonder do you >>>>think our society could elect someone that wise and honest the way we do >>>>it now? I under stand taking steps in the wrong direction are worse >>>>than not taking any. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>but where the most >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Americans will stand to benefit (without the loss of life and liberty to >>>>>>someone in another country as a result of the benefit to these >>>>>>Americans.). >>>>>>I believe JFK said "ask not what your country can do for >>>>>>you but what you can do for your country" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Yes, I believe he said that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I kind sounded like I was preaching a bit didnt I, Sorry, just venting >>>>frustration. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I understand some issues are >>>>>>very complicated and do not have simple answers but when you jump on a >>>>>>party line that says " this is bad" and "thats good don't bother to >>>>>>think", then you have just become blind to the real solutions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Basically, all I have been saying that BushCo represents special interests >>>>>and >>>>>not the American people. He has lied to Congress and "we the people". >>>>>His values and actions have resulted in a degraded environment, a >>>>>disastrous >>>>>war in Iraq (more pending?), >>>>>fraud, spying on us all, etc. These are bad. >>>>> >>>>>I believe the best solution is his immediate >>>>>removal from office. This is good. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I was not in disagreement with you, now that I read it back sounds kinda >>>>condensending, Sorry again. I only think that to truly get effective >>>>change that will meet our goals I think we need to do (from your list) >>>>"world-class education for all through 4 years college" first and we >>>>need to develop socially as a people right along with that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>You can think on this. I encourage free thinking on all issues. Are there >>>>>any issues >>>>>am I blind to? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Again I am sorry if I sounded like I was aiming at you, I merely do not >>>>like party think and I value honest and sincere thoughts from Right and >>>>left thinkers. I think you do to, but there are many that do not. >>>> >>>>My best, >>>>Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>There is nothing complicated about GW Bush. He's a pretty linear guy. >>>>> >>>>>Peace to all, D. Mindock >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Best, >>>>>>Jim >>>>>> >>>>>>D. Mindock wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/10305 >>>>>>><http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/10305> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Now Is the Time for a Left-Right Alliance >>>>>>> >>>>>>>A rebel alliance already exists that could stop Bush administration >>>>>>>attacks on the Constitution >>>>>>>by Thomas R. Eddlem >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I'm currently a life member of the John Birch Society and formerly >>>>>>>served on the staff of the organization for 13 years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So why should any left-winger reading this care a fig about what I have >>>>>>>to say? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Because of a conversation I had with another conservative magazine >>>>>>>writer recently. In frustration at the unconstitutional excesses of the >>>>>>>Bush administration, I blurted out to him: "The only people doing any >>>>>>>good out there are the people at Air America." I expected to shock him >>>>>>>with the statement, but his two-word reply shocked me: "And MoveOn.org." >>>>>>> >>>>>>>We were both exaggerating for effect, but fact is, as my journalist >>>>>>>friend continued, "We probably only disagree on, maybe, 25 percent of >>>>>>>the issues." I'd have put the percentage a little higher, though I >>>>>>>tacked an ending onto his sentence: ".and those issues aren't especially >>>>>>>important right now." >>>>>>> >>>>>>>When Air America started, I told myself and my friends that it would >>>>>>>fail because it would be redundant. The Left already controls all the >>>>>>>television networks besides Fox, along with most of the major >>>>>>>newspapers. But here we are a year later, and the most penetrating news >>>>>>>analysis on television is - and I'm not exaggerating here - Jon >>>>>>>Stewart's Daily Show on Comedy Central. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I tuned into the Boston Air America affiliate when I became a community >>>>>>>radio talk show host almost two years ago, thinking that I could use a >>>>>>>few of their wild statements as a springboard to bounce my counterpoint. >>>>>>>And although I got a few yuks out of quips about "Airhead America," I >>>>>>>found that I agreed with the hosts more than I disagreed with them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>They criticized the Bush administration for deceiving us into the Iraq >>>>>>>war. No problem there. They criticized Alberto Gonzales for his torture >>>>>>>memos. Again, no problem. They criticized deficit spending, the PATRIOT >>>>>>>Act, and corporate welfare. Hurray, hurray, and hurray! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So I called into a few "progressive" radio talk shows, identifying >>>>>>>myself as a "right-wing radio talk show host," and explained my >>>>>>>understanding of these issues. Stephanie Miller told me that I was a >>>>>>>"not a very good right-winger." A liberal show host at my radio station >>>>>>>even called me a "liberal." >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But my views haven't changed one bit since I joined the John Birch >>>>>>>Society during the Reagan administration. So this is not a conversion >>>>>>>story. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What's changed is that the Bush administration has simply gotten that >>>>>>>bad and that, according to some polls, we are almost at the point where >>>>>>>most genuine conservatives realize it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thomas R. Eddlem is a native of the Boston area of Massachusetts and a >>>>>>>graduate of Stonehill College. 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