The Real Mike, Sorry, I got two messages from you, one personal and one through the list. I appreciated you message, but sent the same answer to both you and the list. It was not until afterwards, that I saw the difference and that you in the personal one try a Swedish sentence, also much appreciated because of the effort that must have gone into it. To try to construct a sentence in an unfamiliar language is a lot of work and it is easy to get it wrong. In Swedish we would say "Heder åt dig", which is in translation "Honor to you".
To make my answer to the list understandable. I have to explain to the list that I tried to explain what you said in Swedish, which was "JAG er gammal utom JAG rengör!" and suggest the Swedish text for what you probably wanted to say. Hakan At 14:10 01/06/2006, you wrote: >Mike W, > >If you look at my post, it was an answer to >Michael Redler's post, so do not worry. We are >probably all confused by all the Mikes and it >might be good if you sign your posts with >"Weaver" or Mike W. Maybe you should sign it with "The Real Mike". LOL > >What you are saying in Swedish is "I am old >except I am cleaning". Mike R. could make a lot >with this, if he understand Swedish. LOL > >If you wanted to say "I am old but clean" it is >"Jag är gammal men ren". Probably you wanted to >say "I am old but innocent" which is "Jag är gammal men oskyldig". > >I hope that MR understands that it was a reply to him. LOL > >Best wishes. > >Hakan > > >At 12:56 01/06/2006, you wrote: > >Hakan, > > > >I think you've gotten your Mikes mixed up. I'm Mike Weaver, or Mike the > >Elder. > >I didn't say any of this. Go back and check the headers. > >I responded to your post of a few days ago, and basically agreed with > >you that the US suffers from corruption, pollution and lack of transparency. > >I most certainly didn't attack your English nor your grammer. > > > >I did not write this below: > > > >-Mike Weaver > > > >******** > > > >You wrote: "...it is a concerted effort to try to hold the value of > >the dollar high, when it according to all financial rules and > >fundamentals should be much lower." > > > >So, there are no organizations or governments attempting to defend > >themselves from U.S. Hegemony by trying to increase the value of > >currencies other than the Dollar? Who's the child Hakan? > > > >You said: "I find it a little bit amazing that in the text below is > >an attempt to > >blame other countries for allowing US to break all the rules." > > > >I find it amazing too - since I didn't "blame" other countries for anything. > > > >I find it amazing that (according to you) I can "blame" someone > >without using the word blame, or: > >culpability > >fault > >guilt > >rap > >responsibility for wrongdoing or failure > > > >I didn't say any related words like: > >regret > >remorse > >self-reproach > >shame > >accountability > >liability > >complicity > >blameworthiness > >reprehensibleness > >sinfulness > >censure > >condemnation > >denunciation > > > >(courtesy: > ><http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/blame>http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/blame ) > > > >I didn't try to excuse the U.S. from breaking "all the rules". > >However, I did say "White House policy is both self destructive and > >antagonistic, attracting the attention of others to attack." > > > >You also said: "I do not see that US is under any attack" > > > >That one stands on it's own merit (or lack thereof). The U.S. has so > >broadly alienated countries on every continent, what strategy of > >attack do you think is being spared - irrespective of whether or not > >you can "see" it? > > > >My observation/speculation was related to a growing and justifiable > >popular dissent against the U.S. government, occurring both inside > >and outside the U.S. and how it may be effecting policy decisions in > >countries around the world. > > > >It would be a ray of sunshine if you could save the small-minded > >personal attacks, address a specific observation (accurately) and > >express dissent with at least a thimble full of objectivity. I'm not > >even asking for respect (although it would be nice). > > > >Others might find it useful to the conversation and you might find > >it helpful to your own credibility. > > > > > > > >Hakan Falk wrote: > > > > >Mike, > > > > > >I said that I found it amazing in the text, that was copied, and > > >referred to by you. I did not said that you blamed anyone. If it was > > >your text, then I misunderstood your referral. > > > > > >I must have misunderstood you, since you now are saying that other > > >countries defend themselves from US. I thought you said that they > > >attacked US in a concerted manner. This is the first time that you > > >introduce organizations and we all know that there are organizations > > >that are trying to attack US and many other countries also. > > > > > >National economy is a bit more complicated and generally you cannot > > >say that a too high evaluated currency is good for a country. In most > > >cases an artificial high currency is not good, which US experienced > > >for some years now. US have tried for some time now, to get some > > >selected other countries to rise their currencies, so it didn't had > > >to devaluate. It would have been the same thing, but looked better > > >for the US government. It would also given US the best of both worlds > > >and kept the others to pay an artificially high price for the dollars > > >they needed for their energy purchases. It is many factors that tell > > >us that US no longer deserve the responsibility to be the guardian of > > >a world currency and some diversification to Euro and other > > >currencies will create better stability. > > > > > >If you at your leisure chooses to misunderstand my choice of English > > >words and that way take advantage of my choice of words and > > >nationality, I will start to write Swedish in my responses to you. I > > >do not like that you take advantage of that I try to write to you in > > >your language and get upset/ridicule my choice of words, instead of > > >try to understand what I want to say in a positive manner. You can > > >try to communicate with me in Swedish and I am quite sure that your > > >choices of Swedish words will be somewhat worse than my choices of > > >English words. > > > > > >It is after all an International list and the majority of us have > > >other native languages than English. Until you attacked my for my > > >English, I found a very large understanding for this, by the other > > >list members. > > > > > >Hakan > > > > > >At 00:28 01/06/2006, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Hakan, > > >> > > >>You wrote: "...it is a concerted effort to try to hold the value of > > >>the dollar high, when it according to all financial rules and > > >>fundamentals should be much lower." > > >> > > >>So, there are no organizations or governments attempting to defend > > >>themselves from U.S. Hegemony by trying to increase the value of > > >>currencies other than the Dollar? Who's the child Hakan? > > >> > > >>You said: "I find it a little bit amazing that in the text below is > > >>an attempt to > > >>blame other countries for allowing US to break all the rules." > > >> > > >>I find it amazing too - since I didn't > > "blame" other countries for anything. > > >> > > >>I find it amazing that (according to you) I can "blame" someone > > >>without using the word blame, or: > > >>culpability > > >>fault > > >>guilt > > >>rap > > >>responsibility for wrongdoing or failure > > >> > > >>I didn't say any related words like: > > >>regret > > >>remorse > > >>self-reproach > > >>shame > > >>accountability > > >>liability > > >>complicity > > >>blameworthiness > > >>reprehensibleness > > >>sinfulness > > >>censure > > >>condemnation > > >>denunciation > > >> > > >>(courtesy: > > >><http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/blame>http:// > www.m-w.com/dictionary/blame ) > > >> > > >>I didn't try to excuse the U.S. from breaking "all the rules". > > >>However, I did say "White House policy is both self destructive and > > >>antagonistic, attracting the attention of others to attack." > > >> > > >>You also said: "I do not see that US is under any attack" > > >> > > >>That one stands on it's own merit (or lack thereof). The U.S. has so > > >>broadly alienated countries on every continent, what strategy of > > >>attack do you think is being spared - irrespective of whether or not > > >>you can "see" it? > > >> > > >>My observation/speculation was related to a growing and justifiable > > >>popular dissent against the U.S. government, occurring both inside > > >>and outside the U.S. and how it may be effecting policy decisions in > > >>countries around the world. > > >> > > >>It would be a ray of sunshine if you could save the small-minded > > >>personal attacks, address a specific observation (accurately) and > > >>express dissent with at least a thimble full of objectivity. I'm not > > >>even asking for respect (although it would be nice). > > >> > > >>Others might find it useful to the conversation and you might find > > >>it helpful to your own credibility. > > >> > > >>Mike > > >> > > >> > > >>Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >>Mike, > > >> > > >>The weakening of the dollar is not a result of any concerted foreign > > >>effort. The dollar is amazingly strong, considering that US breaks > > >>all fundamentals. It is probably the opposite, it is a concerted > > >>effort to try to hold the value of the dollar high, when it according > > >>to all financial rules and fundamentals should be much lower. > > >> > > >>I find it a little bit amazing that in the text below is an attempt to > > >>blame other countries for allowing US to break all the rules. I would > > >>not surprised to hear such things from children "mom/dad said we > > >>could do it" and maybe I am not that surprised to hear it from US. > > >>It is however wrong to try to find any to blame other then US itself. > > >> > > >>I do not see that US is under any attack, it is only taking the > > >>consequences of its own doing. I see no reason to develop any > > >>mental feelings like "being pursued" over it. It is not any background > > >>for "see what they are doing to us" when it should be "see what we > > >>are doing to ourselves". On the other hand, conspiration theories > > >>are favorite themes for Americans and they will soon find someone > > >>who is "making it to the Americans, so the Americans will make > > >>it to themselves". > > >> > > >>Do not misunderstand me, I like Americans very much and I also > > >>like children very much. I wonder if there are any connections in > > >>this. How they could elect Bush is beyond me, but he is there. > > >> > > >>Hakan > > >> > > >> > > >>At 17:05 31/05/2006, you wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>I think the 5/30/06 post and attached article from AltEnergyNetwork did > > >>>a excellent job explaining the administration's decision making process, > > >>>the U.S. economy and how it compares to similar situations in other > > >>>countries. > > >>> > > >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg63309.html > > >>> > > >>>I also think it's possible that the weakening of the U.S. Dollar is the > > >>>result of a concerted effort by foreign entities (governments and NGO's) > > >>>and might be related to what Noam Chomsky describes on the last page of > > >>>"Hegemony or Survival". > > >>> > > >>>"For the first time, concrete alliances have been taking shape at the > > >>>grassroots level . These are impressive developments, rich in > > >>>opportunity. And they have had effects, in rhetorical and sometimes > > >>>policy changes." > > >>> > > >>>When he says "policy changes", I read it to mean within the United > > >>>States. However, I think that a popular movement to identify the U.S. > > >>>government as the single biggest threat to our survival as a species, is > > >>>coalescing in foreign policy decisions around the world. The result is > > >>>an indication of US economic isolation with hopes of slowing military > > >>>buildup and globalization. > > >>> > > >>>(IMO) this adds to Mike Weaver's position: > > >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg63345.html > > >>> > > >>>"Don't get me wrong - the concerted effort to destroy our economic > > >>>system perpetuated by the Bush Administration will (and has) have an > > >>>effect." > > >>> > > >>>White House policy is both self destructive and antagonistic, attracting > > >>>the attention of others to attack. > > >>> > > >>>Military spending/use, energy, the environment, you name it, the U.S. > > >>>government is enormously wasteful and destructive (not that I need to > > >>>tell anyone in this forum) and people are taking notice. Like Keith > > >>>wrote: "Eco-economics has been on the table since Maggie Thatcher put it > > >>>there by mistake in 1988. It's not going to go away, it's been gaining > > >>>ground steadily." > > >>> > > >>>It's about holding back the most destructive empire in human history - > > >>>destructive for what it does and doesn't do. > > >>> > > >>>Re: WMD's - how U.S. policy threatens our survival. > > >>> > > >>>In addition to U.S. engagement in continuous military conflicts since > > >>>WWII, the Bush administration has vetoed or avoided discussion on nearly > > >>>every international effort to limit nuclear, chemical and biological > > >>>weapons, has militarized space in violation of past nuclear weapons > > >>>treatise and has prompted other countries to react and build more arms. > > >>>U.S. spending on nuclear weapons has surpassed the entire state > > >>>department budget. The U.S. Pharmaceutical industry is helping develop > > >>>vaccine resistant Anthrax (for example) and an arms race for biological > > >>>weapons is already underway. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Mike > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>[snip] > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Biofuel mailing list > > >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > >> > > >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > >> > > >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz > > list archives (50,000 messages): > > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Biofuel mailing list > > >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz > > list archives (50,000 messages): > > >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Biofuel mailing list > >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz > list archives (50,000 messages): > >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
