Hi Mike Weaver

I know OSX is UNIX, but it took Apple four or five years after 
release for the "tweaking" to produce a really good OS. And I still 
don't use OSX, though I'm being forced in that direction, but who 
needs an entire software upgrade/replacement? I'll install OSX in the 
end and mostly run OS9 with it, for a long time to come I expect. 
 From what I've seen of such things I wouldn't be too happy about 
entrusting the JtF site to a GoLive that's been tweaked for Linux, or 
not until it was as solid as say Mailman.

Anyway, the original argument falls away, if OSX is UNIX anyway, then 
why use Linux? That "human face" is of a grown-up, not a kid, and 
whether it's UNIX or OS9 it saves me a a large amount of 
non-negotiable time. Either way I'd still have this current graphics 
conversion problem.

Best

Keith

>Actually, Mac OSX is really just UNIX, in the form of tweaked FreeBSD.
>All the Adobe stuff would run on Linux as well as they run on OSX, but
>Adobe (I suspect due the the not so gentle prodding of
>MS and perhaps Apple) has chosen not too release Linux versions.
>
>Anyting that runs on OSX would run on Linux with very little work,
>probably just a recompile...
>
>OSX is *nix with a human face
>
>Keith Addison wrote:
>
> >Wotcha Weaver
> >
> >
> >
> >>Linux.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I don't think so Mike. Macs are highly developed, I think it'll be
> >awhile before I could do with Linux what I do with a Mac, and as
> >easily and quickly. I'm sure I'll get arguments from the Linux
> >freaks, but I'm on your side, I don't think Macs and Linux are in
> >competition. IMHO the Linux user base just isn't big enough yet, it's
> >only a fifth as big as Macs (which is hugely outnumbered by Windoze).
> >Put an interface on it that's the equal of OSX, or even OS8, with
> >software to match, or with software that can migrate, and I'll
> >probably do Linux too. Right now you still have to be a geek, it's
> >half-baked. IMHO. Tell me again when I can just do the work fast
> >without having to think about what the computer might prefer so you
> >keep tripping over the damn' thing. Linux for people who don't like
> >computers, and don't really want to know exactly how the fridge works
> >either just as long as it keeps stuff cold without making a fuss
> >about it. Speed the day. (No that doesn't mean I want a FuelMeister!
> >LOL!) If I'm wrong about it, hooray, but then please confirm that
> >Linux can do GoLive, or any equivalent that can handle a 1000-page
> >website as fast and seamlessly. Then it'll have to get that much
> >better that it's worth the move.
> >
> >Best
> >
> >Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Keith Addison wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>:-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>this
> >>>>converter is Windoz sw.
> >>>>Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it.
> >>>>
> >>>>Chandan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too,
> >>>as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a
> >>>Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the
> >>>graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks again, all best
> >>>
> >>>Keith
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Chandan Haldar wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Keith,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter:
> >>>>>http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html
> >>>>>which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or
> >>>>>pdf formats.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a
> >>>>>visio
> >>>>>file to try it out.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cheers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Chandan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Keith Addison wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hello all
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them.
> >>>>>>He said: "the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may
> >>>>>>convert to html." We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of
> >>>>>>Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's
> >>>>>>or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks much
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Keith


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