Terry, are you aware that the FTC has banned him from infomercials due to many many false statements? If you have ever seen any infomercials, you should know that the standard of acceptability very, very low. Well, Trudeau went below that.
Or that he has spent time in prison for felony fraud? If you have ever seen any infomercials, you should know that the standard of acceptability very, very low. Well, Trudeau went below that. here is the ftc statement http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/09/trudeaucoral.htm and here is a little vox populi. Note this is not big pharma or a federal agency, but rather individuals talking about how they have been treated by the man. http://www.ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q5=kevin+trudeau&submit2=Search%21&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0 you could have picked any number of better examples than this guy. Terry Dyck wrote: > Hi Bob, > > The book titled "Natural Cures they don't want you to know about", by Kevin > Trudeau explains examples of what really goes on in our commercial world. > Kevin was a CEO of a huge Pharmactical corporation and did a lot of corrupt > work to please the share holders of his company. then he is corrupt to do it. and just what company was that? I don't mean to imply that that sort of thing is not done, just that I question whether Trudeau was a CEO of a huge Pharma. He was expected to do this > corrupt work in order to keep his job. He also explains that the FDA quite > often picks on small natural food companies and has there products banned > for no health reason but because they may interfere with the bottom line of > Drug companies profits. got a verifiable example? > You are right, Bob, members on this list do understand how profits can > influence information. Exxon Oil and other oil corporations have paid > scientists for years to publish untruthful info about Global Warming, etc. now here we agree. > > >> From: bob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia >> WasTestimonials as Evidence) >> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:58:51 -0500 >> >> That last one from me was dashed off a little too hastily. Here is what >> I should have sent: >> >> Howdy Terry, >> >> Terry Dyck wrote: >>> Because my name was mentioned in this thread I would like to join Joe >> and D. >>> Mindock in stating that I to believe in science. There is good science >> and >>> bad science. >> bad science has little meaning in my mind. One can pursue information >> via methods that attempt to control for confounding variables or not. >> There is hype, marketing, downright lies etc. but that is not science. >> >> >> When it comes to the western world and health money seems to >>> be a huge factor and prevention of disease does not get as much >> published >>> science in a good light as does big profit pharmacetical corportations. >> or big profit for little guys like mercola, hulda clark, and an endless >> array of hucksters? >> >> >> So >>> we seem to mostly here what the big corporations have to say. >> not on this list, huh. But we do see mercola et al. I really don't see >> much difference, other than greater regulation of big pharma. >> >> >> >> This is not >>> good for human health. >>> >>> Terry Dyck >>> >>> >>>> From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia >>>> WasTestimonials as Evidence) >>>> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 02:33:15 -0500 >>>> >>>> Yep, I too admire scientists, real truth seeking ones, not those who >> can be >>>> bought to produce desired >>>> outcomes. My degree is in science, atmospheric. Basically I am trained >> to >>>> run computer >>>> models of the atmosphere and to enhance the models so they correlate >> more >>>> closely to >>>> reality. Reality, aka Nature, is the gold standard. >>>> Bob is wound a bit tight but that might come from trying to pour >> knowledge >>>> into hung-over >>>> college students. His love of data, results from scientific studies, is >> awe >>>> inspiring at times. >>>> Peace, D. Mindock >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Joe Street" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:34 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia >> Was >>>> Testimonials as Evidence) >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Kurt; >>>>> >>>>> Pardon my snipping style but..... >>>>> >>>>> Kurt Nolte wrote: >>>>> snip >>>>> >>>>>> On the other side we have his opponents, among them Joe Street, Terry >>>>>> Dyck, Mike Dupree and D. Mindock, to name a few off the top of my >> head. >>>>>> These people seem to be, to the best of my knowledge, claiming that >>>>>> herbs (The topic at hand) are the /only/ things that are truly >>>>>> efficacious as medicinal compounds, and that pharmaceuticals produced >> by >>>>>> synthetic processes just don't hack it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Actually I don't believe I ever said that! I am opposing Bob to some >>>>> degree but that doesn't mean I said what you are attributing to me, or >> I >>>>> guess more correctly that you should be lumping me in with what you >> are >>>>> saying about the others. I am very scientifically inclined, I run a >>>>> university lab for pete's sake as well but I am also a sceptic of the >>>>> idea that science is the be all and end all or that it has all the >>>>> answers. I still have great respect for science and believe that one >>>>> day it may encompass things that it currently can't explain. All I am >>>>> suggesting to Bob is that even though science cannot explain something >>>>> at the present time, that does not mean it must necessarily be >>>>> rejected. I think this is the only point on which Bob and I are in >>>>> dissagreement. I also wouldn't say it is fair to be calling Bob >> closed >>>>> minded. Stubborn yes but narrow or closed minded, no. >>>>> >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Biofuel mailing list >>>> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>> >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>> >>>> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>>> messages): >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Biofuel mailing list >>> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>> >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>> >>> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >> messages): >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Bob Allen >> http://www.ozarker.org/bob >> --------------------------------------------- >> Science is what we have learned about how to >> keep from fooling ourselves. 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