Howdy Mike, M&K DuPree wrote: > Hi D and Mike...isn't homogenized milk
actually the lipid portion of milk, whipped up into incredibly small > particles yes that actually scar the lining of the esophagus and arteries, no > thereby, allowing cholesterol to more easily coagulate along the > linings? no Whether or not it does, I say "soy milk." I know I > know...tastes terrible, to some. But I only use it on cereals and a > couple of desserts. Plenty of other stuff to be drinking, like....uh, > water....distilled of course...I know I know minerals etc > etc...hey...distilled....period...and don't bother me about taste...if > you can taste it, it ain't water you're tasting! Yeah, I'm closed > minded on this one!! LOL Mike DuPree > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as > AnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence) > > > Hi Mike, > > I think Weston Price would say to drink raw milk. When > > milk is pastuerized and homogenized, it becomes harmful > > to the body. So those drinking less of the bad milk in the > > Harvard study would actually be better off. > > Myself, I don't drink milk unless I can get it raw and organic. > > Also, even better, is to add kefir culture to it. I think the Hunzas > > drink their milk cultured, not straight up. > > Peace, D. Mindock > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia > > WasTestimonials as Evidence) > > > > > >> From the can't-help-but-stick-my-toe-in dept. > >> > >> Caveat: No proof other than what I've read over the years. > >> > >> It has always seemed to me that the maladies that people suffer from are > >> in large part due to environment/lifestyle. In the third world, > >> disease is far more likely to be as a result of the lack of food and > >> adequate nutrition, wheras in the developed world, we suffer from the > >> diseaeses of affluence: diabetis being the one that comes to mind, > >> along with obesity-related ailments such as heart disease, high blood > >> pressure, strokes and so on. Smoking is another factor. > >> > >> Another interesting item, from Harvard University's website: > >> > >> In particular, these studies suggest that high calcium intake doesn't > >> actually appear to lower a person's risk for osteoporosis. For example, > >> in the large Harvard studies of male health professionals and female > >> nurses, individuals who drank one glass of milk (or less) per week were > >> at no greater risk of breaking a hip or forearm than were those who > >> drank two or more glasses per week.(2, 3 > >> <http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium.html#references>) > >> Other studies have found similar results. > >> > >> It is odd human beings are the only animal that develop "a disease" if > >> they don't eat the milk of another species. Dogs don't need cat milk. > >> > >> bob allen wrote: > >> > >>>Howdy Terry, > >>> > >>>Terry Dyck wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>HI Bob, > >>>> > >>>>The Western world has the highest rate of Cancer, Heart disease, > >>>>Diabetes, > >>>>Respiratory problems and other ailments in the world. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>oh really, and your source for these "facts" is? are the data age > >>>adjusted, etc. and just what "other" ailments are included. This is the > >>>issue I have with you and others, you make what I feel are overly broad > >>>statements as fact, without little or no support. So give me > >>>reference or two so I can draw my own conclusions. > >>> > >>>or how about just statistic at a time to discuss. How about age > >>>adjusted cancer rates? (age adjusting is necessary as cancer is > >>>essentially inevitable, the longer you live the more likely you are to > >>>get cancer. > >>> > >>> > >>> show me the data please. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On the other hand > >>>>there is a valley in the middle of the Himalayan mountains called > >>>>Hunzaland > >>>>that is an almost disease free area. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I have heard this canard before. I googled hunzaland and about the only > >>>thing I got were people hawking their particular "cure" > >>> > >>> The Apricot Kernel Anti-Cancer Theory > >>> http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/land_of_hunza.htm > >>> > >>>or how about 160+ year olds > >>>http://www.arthritis-nature-cure.com/people.htm > >>> > >>>do really believe that? really, you don't think someone could be less > >>>than forthright to make a point about a product the promote? > >>> > >>>or maybe it's the magnetized water > >>>http://www.stopcancer.com/magnetpHFoundation2.htm > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> A pure organic food diet and almost no > >>>>pollution could be the reason for people having good health. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>or it could all be a bunch of hype. How do we know with out better > >>>documentation? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>Bob Allen, http://ozarker.org/bob > >>>>>========================================================= > >>>>>The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises in > >>>>>moral philosophy; that is, > >>>>>the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness JKG > >>>>> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > -- Bob Allen, ozarker.org/bob ------------------------------ Actually we are all atheists. 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