Howdy Mike,

M&K DuPree wrote:
> Hi D and Mike...isn't homogenized milk

actually the lipid portion of milk,

whipped up into incredibly small
> particles 

yes
that actually scar the lining of the esophagus and arteries,

no
> thereby, allowing cholesterol to more easily coagulate along the 
> linings? 

no

Whether or not it does, I say "soy milk."  I know I
> know...tastes terrible, to some.  But I only use it on cereals and a 
> couple of desserts.  Plenty of other stuff to be drinking, like....uh, 
> water....distilled of course...I know I know minerals etc 
> etc...hey...distilled....period...and don't bother me about taste...if 
> you can taste it, it ain't water you're tasting!  Yeah, I'm closed 
> minded on this one!!  LOL Mike DuPree
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as 
> AnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence)
> 
>  > Hi Mike,
>  >   I think Weston Price would say to drink raw milk. When
>  > milk is pastuerized and homogenized, it becomes harmful
>  > to the body. So those drinking less of the bad milk in the
>  > Harvard study would actually be better off.
>  >  Myself, I don't drink milk unless I can get it raw and organic.
>  > Also, even better, is to add kefir culture to it. I think the Hunzas
>  > drink their milk cultured, not straight up.
>  > Peace, D. Mindock
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>  > To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>>
>  > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:12 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia
>  > WasTestimonials as Evidence)
>  >
>  >
>  >> From the can't-help-but-stick-my-toe-in dept.
>  >>
>  >> Caveat:  No proof other than what I've read over the years.
>  >>
>  >> It has always seemed to me that the maladies that people suffer from are
>  >> in large part due to environment/lifestyle.  In the third world,
>  >> disease is far more likely to be as a result of the lack of food and
>  >> adequate nutrition, wheras in the developed world, we suffer from the
>  >> diseaeses of affluence:  diabetis being the one that comes to mind,
>  >> along with obesity-related ailments such as heart disease, high blood
>  >> pressure, strokes and so on.  Smoking is another factor.
>  >>
>  >> Another interesting item, from Harvard University's website:
>  >>
>  >> In particular, these studies suggest that high calcium intake doesn't
>  >> actually appear to lower a person's risk for osteoporosis. For example,
>  >> in the large Harvard studies of male health professionals and female
>  >> nurses, individuals who drank one glass of milk (or less) per week were
>  >> at no greater risk of breaking a hip or forearm than were those who
>  >> drank two or more glasses per week.(2, 3
>  >> <http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium.html#references>)
>  >> Other studies have found similar results.
>  >>
>  >> It is odd human beings are the only animal that develop "a disease" if
>  >> they don't eat the milk of another species.  Dogs don't need cat milk.
>  >>
>  >> bob allen wrote:
>  >>
>  >>>Howdy Terry,
>  >>>
>  >>>Terry Dyck wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>>HI Bob,
>  >>>>
>  >>>>The Western world has the highest rate of Cancer, Heart disease,
>  >>>>Diabetes,
>  >>>>Respiratory problems and other ailments in the world.
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>
>  >>>oh really, and your source for these "facts" is?  are the data age
>  >>>adjusted, etc. and just what "other" ailments are included.  This is the
>  >>>issue I have with you and others, you make what I feel are overly broad
>  >>>statements as fact, without  little or no support.  So give me
>  >>>reference or two so I can draw my own conclusions.
>  >>>
>  >>>or how about just statistic at a time to discuss.   How about age
>  >>>adjusted cancer rates?  (age adjusting is necessary as cancer is
>  >>>essentially inevitable, the longer you live the more likely you are to
>  >>>get cancer.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>   show me the data please.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>>  On the other hand
>  >>>>there is a valley in the middle of the Himalayan mountains called
>  >>>>Hunzaland
>  >>>>that is an almost disease free area.
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>I have heard this canard before.  I googled hunzaland and about the only
>  >>>thing I got were people hawking their particular "cure"
>  >>>
>  >>>                   The Apricot Kernel Anti-Cancer Theory
>  >>>    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/land_of_hunza.htm
>  >>>
>  >>>or how about 160+ year olds
>  >>>http://www.arthritis-nature-cure.com/people.htm
>  >>>
>  >>>do really believe that?  really, you don't think someone could be less
>  >>>than forthright to make a point about a product the promote?
>  >>>
>  >>>or maybe it's the magnetized water
>  >>>http://www.stopcancer.com/magnetpHFoundation2.htm
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>> A pure organic food diet and almost no
>  >>>>pollution could be the reason for people having good health.
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>or it could all be a bunch of hype. How do we know with out better
>  >>>documentation?
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>>>--
>  >>>>>Bob Allen, http://ozarker.org/bob
>  >>>>>=========================================================
>  >>>>>The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises in
>  >>>>>moral philosophy; that is,
>  >>>>>the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness  JKG
>  >>>>>
>  >
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