I have not read this article, but I was wondering if Yellowstone may be affected by globall warming? It would be catastrophic for the world if a few degrees warmer environment made Yellowstone more active.
regards Doug (from the down side of the planet) On Saturday 28 October 2006 6:36, M&K DuPree wrote: > Hi Zeke...with a population that is exploding and with it the demand for > limited resources doing same, how can anyone not expect that we will not > only continue in the direction of the last 80 years, but accelerate in that > direction? This thread has included the statement "everything changes." > It occurred to me, however, that indeed it does change, but never > disappears. Is there solace in this thought? Obviously not for anyone who > has identified totally with "What a Wonderful World" this is, er, was. Ah > well, just in case anyone is still hanging on too dearly, you might check > out http://bioresonant.com/news.htm. This author says the earth is > preparing to explode. Now won't that be fun?!!! Mike DuPree ----- > Original Message ----- > From: Zeke Yewdall > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil > > > At 9,300 feet elevation, I have little to worry about with regards to > rising sea levels. But, the climate is already getting pretty wacky. I > was talking to someone who's lived there for over 30 years, and he's seen > the weather noticeably chance since then. The treeline is moving both up > from the bottom due to hotter summers and drought, and down from the top > due to colder winters, less snow to protect the trees, and wind. > Permanent snowfields that used to be 200 foot thick along the divide around > the turn of the century are almost gone now. We just got 22 inches of > snow at my house wednesday night, which is "normal" for around 1900 or so, > but for the last 80 years or so, it's been quite a bit less snow than the > previous few hundred years. Alot of our infrastructure was built in the > period of less snow, so it doesn't cope with the snow that well. If we > actually get a "normal" winter, it's going to be hard. But if we continue > in the direction of the last 80 years, water, both for cities, and for > agriculture, is going to get pretty scarce here in Colorado. > > > On 10/25/06, Bob Molloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Terry, > The projected rise in sea levels is about five metres > (just over 16 feet) in the next 100 years. That gives us plenty of time to > pick up our beach umbrellas and move back a few feet. Over 90 per cent of > our population lives with a half-hour drive of the sea so the issue is one > of great interest here. In my case it will bring the nearest tidal water > (currently 300 yards away) to within a hundred yards of my front lawn and > maybe take out a few of my grape vines. > It's a worry I tell you. > Regards, > Bob. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Dyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil > > > Hi Bob, > > > > New Zealand must be the perfect place to live. You have won awards > > for environmental projects and you are planting seeds to grow diesel > > trees. Congratulations. Those beaches you mentioned could be in > > trouble, though, when the sea rises. > > > > Terry Dyck > > > > >From: "Bob Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > >To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil > > >Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:48:43 +1300 > > > > > >Jeez Mike, > > > No, definitely not New Zealand, we've limited > > > our population to four million and we only have an area just a > > > little larger than the British Isles. Besides we've got an > > > anti-nuclear policy and live under an ozone hole for much of the > > > summer. Anyway we've got too much > > water > > > >and forest and mountains and stuff, the South Pole is just over the > > >horizon, we've got all these beaches that nobody uses, deer and > > > horses > > and > > > >pig that run wild, eels in every stream, fish coming out of our ears > > > and sheep everywhere. You'd hate it. > > >Trust me, > > >Bob. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: M&K DuPree > > > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:07 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil > > > > > > > > > See Stephen Leeb's The Coming Economic Collapse: How You Can > > > Thrive > > When > > > >Oil Costs $200 a Barrel. Leeb would have us buying stocks in > > > various companies because that's his business. The points he makes > > > about why the price of oil must rise to levels far beyond we know > > > today are my reason > > for > > > >directing our attention to the book. It really does come down to a > > massive > > > >population growing exponentially and an economic model promoted by > > > the > > USA. > > > > Bottom line is, we're screwed, at least as far as the world as > > > we've known it run on oil is concerned. Maybe all the JTF List > > > could put our money, talents, and lives together on some remote > > > island or somewhere in New Zealand and start something that might > > > survive through the coming > > chaos > > > >and become a beacon of hope to the world. Use the JTF Credo as our > > > basis for community life. I'm serious! What, aint gonna happen??? > > > Ah well, > > to > > > >unquote something the bard didn't say, all's not well that doesn't > > > end well. Ah well... 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