M&K DuPree wrote:
> Bob...I gotta be honest, it's fatheads like you that really piss off 
> fatheads

am I not supposed to feel offended if you offend yourself? 


> like me and maybe that's why hope for anything but misery generally on 
> this planet is all there really can be.  Nonetheless, it's also 
> fatheads like you that make fatheads like me take note that whatever 
> hope for anything beyond misery generally on this planet that there 
> may be must first be imagined and felt individually.  So thanks...
glad  I could be of assistance


> for the opportunity to strengthen my resolve for hope and peace and 
> light and love within myself and just generally giving a damn about 
> what really matters
I agree entirely

> even if there is no data prove it.

uh, if you have no data, how do you know it matters?

> Mike DuPree  PS Bob, there is also something called critical reading.  
> It's basically about understanding both the context and content of 
> what is written.  Your response indicates you have not learned how to 
> read critically.  Amazing, since you are the one who keeps advocating 
> "Show me the data!"  No doubt, you have been "blinded by the light."  
> Not unusual.  It's a common problem, due in large part to a major 
> shortage of teachers who know how to do same much less teach it.  Hang 
> in there, buddy.  Fortunately our immediate destinies are all the 
> same...the grave.  Beyond that, of course, who knows.  I'm confident, 
> however, if it turns out to be something other than nothing, you'll 
> get the help you need to grow beyond your pain.
pain?  not here,  generally I enjoy life and seek peace and love just 
like the next guy.
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bob allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Imaginal Cells by Deepak Chopra
>
> > Ah yes, Deepak Chopra, promoter of Ayuvedic medicine, where it is 
> thought that the consumption of
> > your urine is medically beneficial.
> >
> > Nothing like a warm cup of piss to start the day...:0
> >
> > 
> http://www.indiangyan.com/books/therapybooks/Uropathy/my_personal_experiments.shtml
> >
> >
> > Once during my lecture, one gentleman rose from the audience and 
> asked me "Mr. Thakkar, you are
> > talking so highly about urine treatment for all tooth problems, but 
> my experience is otherwise with
> > it. I am washing my mouth with urine since two years, still I have 
> lost my two teeth and the third
> > one is loose and is on the verge of going." I asked him, "How long 
> you you rinse your mouth with
> > urine?" His reply was "for a minute or two". The defect in the 
> treatment was detected instantly. One
> > has to fill his or her mouth with fresh urine for ten minutes so 
> that it can be absorbed by the gums
> > and would reach the roots of the teeth. He informed me after few 
> days that his teeth had become all
> > right with my technique within a week. During last ten years 
> thousands of people have vouched the
> > efficacy of U.T. on teeth and gum problems of various types.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > D. Mindock wrote:
> >> Mike,
> >> I am glad you liked the article. We need to be agents of change, to
> >> transform the
> >> planet into one where peace and caring prevail. As individuals we 
> need to
> >> become
> >> peaceful within ourselves, then we can radiate peace everywhere. 
> Prayer and
> >> continous positive affirmations can help rewire ourselves to a 
> peaceful
> >> state.
> >> WRT a standard prayer for the list, how about: In peace I journey to
> >> forever.
> >> Visioning peace & becoming peace, individually, is a milestone on 
> the way.
> >> We do each create reality for ourselves. Imagining this world as 
> one where
> >> peace exists in
> >> each individual and between countries should make it happen, to become
> >> real for each of us; the idea here is that when a critical number 
> of people
> >> are at peace internally
> >> then the rest will be entrained and switch over easily. So we must 
> become
> >> peace so
> >> that we can project it. We are electrical creatures.
> >> People like Dubya and Cheney are not at peace within themselves, 
> imo. That
> >> is why it is
> >> so easy for them to advocate war and attack the environment. They see
> >> scarcity where there is abundance.
> >>  But they could not do the tragic things they do without lots of 
> like-minded
> >> people.
> >> So we imaginers have to get busy.
> >>
> >> John Lennon's Imagine seems to be appropriate here.
> >>
> >> Imagine there's no heaven
> >> It's easy if you try
> >> No hell below us
> >> Above us only sky
> >> Imagine all the people
> >> Living for today...
> >>
> >> Imagine there's no countries
> >> It isn't hard to do
> >> Nothing to kill or die for
> >> And no religion too
> >> Imagine all the people
> >> Living life in peace...
> >>
> >> You may say I'm a dreamer
> >> But I'm not the only one
> >> I hope someday you'll join us
> >> And the world will be as one
> >>
> >> Imagine no possessions
> >> I wonder if you can
> >> No need for greed or hunger
> >> A brotherhood of man
> >> Imagine all the people
> >> Sharing all the world...
> >>
> >> You may say I'm a dreamer
> >> But I'm not the only one
> >> I hope someday you'll join us
> >> And the world will live as one
> >>
> >> Namasté & Peace to all, D. Mindock
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: M&K DuPree
> >> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:05 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Imaginal Cells by Deepak Chopra
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi D...I really appreciate reading this...but you know what's 
> coming: "Show
> >> me the data!"
> >>      Aside from that, whatever might happen to society as a whole as a
> >> result of many individuals imagining a better world, what happens 
> to the
> >> individual in the process of doing so is what matters most.
> >>      Along these lines, I was wondering: what if the List adopted a 
> prayer,
> >> something simple, just a few words, that each of us might remember and
> >> recite to ourselves at the same time each day.  Not that it would 
> be the
> >> same time for everyone, but that each one would imagine and recite 
> it at the
> >> same time day each day.  The List is global, so it is conceivable 
> that at
> >> any given moment or during any given hour, the prayer would be 
> spoken, the
> >> "imaginal cells" appearing.  I have no idea what we might all say, 
> but it
> >> seems the same words, certainly the same idea, being imagined and 
> spoken 24
> >> hours a day, can't do anything but be helpful, if not ultimately 
> for all the
> >> peoples of the planet and of course the planet, certainly for the
> >> individuals participating in such a thing, each of them knowing 
> they were
> >> being joined by so many others in doing so.  What do you think?  
> What do
> >> members of the List think?  Mike DuPree
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: D. Mindock
> >> To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:52 AM
> >> Subject: [Biofuel] Imaginal Cells by Deepak Chopra
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.thecupoftea.co.uk/newsletter/deepak.html
> >>
> >> Imagining a new state for humanity: the metaphor of imaginal cells
> >> Transformation sometimes can be drastic. There is no better example in
> >> nature to reflect this, than metamorphosis. This is exemplified 
> best in the
> >> transformation of a caterpillar into a butterfly - an incredible
> >> transformation in functionality, appearance, organization of 
> components, and
> >> purpose - that transforms a gross-looking voracious, clumsy 
> crawling worm,
> >> into a subtle, gracious, flying creature of beauty.
> >> Biologists tell us that in the tissue of a caterpillar there are 
> embedded
> >> cells that they call imaginal cells. They resonate at a different 
> frequency.
> >> They are so totally different from the other caterpillar cells, 
> that the
> >> immune system of the worm thinks they are enemies and tries to 
> destroy them.
> >> But the new imaginal cells continue to appear, more and more of them!
> >> Eventually the caterpillar's immune system cannot destroy them fast 
> enough,
> >> and they become stronger, they connect, and connect, until they form a
> >> critical mass that realizes that their mission is to bring about 
> the amazing
> >> birth of a butterfly out of the voracious caterpillar!
> >> In 1969 Margaret Mead said: "Never doubt that a small group of 
> thoughtful,
> >> committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only 
> thing that
> >> ever has". I firmly believe along with many others, that there is an
> >> evolutionary effervescence within the tissues of the established 
> society of
> >> today. That in spite of the prevailing clamor of fear, greed,
> >> over-consumption, and violence, expressed through the tissues of 
> society,
> >> there is a coming together of the imaginal cells who are visioning a
> >> different world, a transformation, a metamorphosis.
> >> Uruguayan poet Mario Benedetti wrote "What would happen if one day 
> when we
> >> wake up we realize that we are the majority?" I say - The imaginal 
> cells
> >> would rule and would make out a butterfly from a caterpillar world.
> >> This is the time of waking. Clusters of imaginal cells are gathering
> >> everywhere, they are beginning to recognize each other, they are 
> developing
> >> the orchestration tools for enhancing connectivity, to drive the 
> next stage
> >> of our human society into manifestation, to bring about a news 
> society that
> >> would compare to the present one as a butterfly with a caterpillar. 
> A new
> >> dimension of life, a compassionate and just society, a humanity 
> rooted in
> >> joy and mutual understanding. You are all imaginal cells join the 
> others,
> >> cluster, congregate, and lets all together build an Alliance for a New
> >> Humanity.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bob Allen, http://ozarker.org/bob
> > =========================================================
> > The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises 
> in moral philosophy; that is,
> > the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness  JKG
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