Perhaps not over-unit, the pendulum does seem to reduce input energy by its very nature, and in the case of pumps or any device why not take mechanical advantage of it? Lots of watches run indefinitely on the simple motions of the wearers hand encouraging a pendulum. I think there's room for its use elsewhere where it isn't being used.
On 1/7/07, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hope springs eternal, as indeed it should, but in a field where there > is no case that has not proved to be a scam hope is best leavened > with due scepticism. > > Posted several times before: > > >Eric Krieg lists 78 free energy scams here, doesn't seem to get into > >the zero-point stuff and instant cold fusion, so there's all that > >besides: > >http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html > >Eric's history of Perpetual Motion and Free Energy Machines > > > >Plus: > >How to become a Free Energy con man > >http://www.phact.org/e/con_man.htm > > > >And: > >The Museum of Unworkable Devices > >http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm > > Best > > Keith > > > > > >Frank, I think the link shows some experiment of him attempting to apply > > >the > > >use in a go cart, I didn't understand what he was trying to do. > > >The most interesting concept to me might be to configure it with a magnet > > >and coil similar to the induction flashlights that work by shaking (sliding > > >a magnet back and forth through a coil). > > >Somewhere in the link you will also see the idea to attach magnets at > > >either > > >end of the pendulum swing. This or electro magnets should keep the unit in > > >motion indefinitely. > > >All in all I think the most beautiful part of this invention is a water > > >pump > > >for developing nation's farmers. > > >http://www.rexresearch.com/milkovic/milkovic.htm > > > >http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendpump.htm > >The water hand-pump with pendulum of Veljko Milkovic > > > >It would be beautiful if there are or ever were any working examples > >that actually pumped water with 9:1 over-unity energy, or any > >over-unity, do you know of any such examples? > > > >Do you know of any other working, real-world, attested, authenticated > >examples of this over-unity device working? Or of any over-unity > >device working? > > > >I think this about sums it up: > > > > >"I did look at several sites describing the "pendulum of Veljko > > >Milkovic". It seems like a neat little device and it does provide > > >for hands-free operation because the human force is stored in the > > >pendulum swing so that the pump continues to pump for awhile after > > >the push. > > > > > >The machine is not a free energy device. All the energy for the pump > > >comes from the person pushing the pendulum. If it were really > > >overunity (one claim was 9 times as much energy out as in), it would > > >be easy to set it up to pump forever. > > > > > >Its a neat little invention. It is not free energy. It is not > > >perpetual motion. It is not over-unity. It is a cool hand pump. > > >There are many hand pumps of many designs available. Show me one > > >that pumps without input energy from a person or other source and > > >then we will have "free energy". > > > >http://www.steorn.net/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=35461#Item_6 > > > >I doubt dangling magnets off it will help much. > > > >Best > > > >Keith > > > > > > >Wes > > > > > >Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:31:04 -0500 > > >From: "Frank Navarrete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil as a therapy > > >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > >Message-ID: > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > > > > > >Hi Wes, > > >Interesting link to Milkovic's work. I wonder if you could apply > > >added pendulum energy to a bicycle, and have a sort of long-distance > > >low-effort gear. > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
