>Israel has a LOT of nukes. The official numbers are crap.
>I place Israel as the number 3 nuclear power - ahead of Britain or France.
>And of all the people on earth likely to use them - they have this 
>psychobabbel about 1000 goyem not worth one of their hangnails. If 
>anyone has the us - them psychosis working overtime it is Israel.
>Then we have our resident psychotic giving them the green light.
>Very very bad my friends.
>Perhaps some iodine tabs in the medicine cabinet are a good idea.
> If anyone will turn the desert to glass it is the narcisstic twits 
>we have as a ruling class.
>Kirk

Can't argue with that Kirk.

Maybe we need a different term. If we want to talk about your twits 
without insulting the rest of you we can say "Washington" instead of 
America or Americans. We don't mean to insult Israelis (and certainly 
not Jews) when we're discussing colonial Zionist Israel.

Best

Keith


>Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/02/09/helping_israel_die.php
>TomPaine.com -
>Helping Israel Die
>
>Ray McGovern
>
>February 09, 2007
>
>Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the
>ecumenical Church of the Saviour in Washington, D.C. He was a CIA
>analyst for 27 years and is on the Steering Group of Veteran
>Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).
>
>President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are
>unwittingly playing Dr. Jack Kevorkian in helping the state of Israel
>commit suicide. For this is the inevitable consequence of the planned
>air and missile attack on Iran. The pockmarked, littered landscape in
>Iraq, Lebanon and Afghanistan and the endless applicant queues at
>al-Qaeda and other terrorist recruiting stations testify eloquently
>to the unintended consequences of myopic policymakers in Washington
>and Tel Aviv.
>
>Mesmerized. Sadly, this is the best word to describe those of us
>awake to the inexorable march of folly to war with Iran and the
>growing danger to Israel's security, especially over the medium and
>long term. An American and/or Israeli attack on Iran will let slip
>the dogs of war. Those dogs never went to obedience school. They will
>not be denied their chance to bite, and Israel's arsenal of nuclear
>weapons will be powerless to muzzle them.
>
>In my view, not since 1948 has the very existence of Israel hung so
>much in the balance. Can Bush/Cheney and the Israeli leaders not see
>it? Pity that no one seems to have read our first president's warning
>on the noxious effects of entangling alliances. The supreme irony is
>that in their fervor to help, as well as use, Israel, Bush and Cheney
>seem blissfully unaware that they are leading it down a garden path
>and off a cliff.
>
>Provoke and Pre-empt
>
>Whether it is putting the kibosh on direct talks with Iran or between
>Israel and Syria, the influence and motives of the vice president are
>more transparent than those of Bush. Sure, Cheney told CNN's Wolf
>Blitzer recently that the administration's Iraq policy would be "an
>enormous success story," but do not believe those who dismiss Cheney
>as "delusional." He and his neoconservative friends are crazy like a
>fox. They have been pushing for confrontation with Iran for many
>years, and saw the invasion of Iraq in that context. Alluding to
>recent U.S. military moves, Robert Dreyfuss rightly describes the
>neocons as "crossing their fingers in the hope that Iran will respond
>provocatively, making what is now a low-grade cold war inexorably
>heat up."
>http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/02/01/bushs_trash_talk_about_iran.php
>
>But what about the president? How to explain his fixation with fixing
>Iran's wagon? Cheney's influence over Bush has been shown to be
>considerable ever since the one-man search committee for the 2000
>vice presidential candidate picked Cheney. The vice president can
>play Bush like a violin. But what strings is he using here? Where is
>the resonance?
>
>Experience has shown the president to be an impressionable sort with
>a roulette penchant for putting great premium on initial impressions
>and latching onto people believed to be kindred souls-be it Russian
>President Vladimir Putin (trust at first sight), hail-fellow-well-met
>CIA director George Tenet or oozing-testosterone-from-every-pore
>former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. Of particular concern was
>his relationship with Sharon. Retired Gen. Brent Scowcroft, a master
>of discretion with the media, saw fit to tell London's Financial
>Times two and a half years ago that Sharon had Bush "mesmerized" and
>"wrapped around his little finger."
>
>As chair of the prestigious President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory
>Board under George W. Bush and national security adviser to his
>father, Scowcroft was uniquely positioned to know-and to draw
>comparisons. He was summarily fired after making the comments about
>Sharon and is now persona non grata at the White House.
>
>Compassion Deficit Disorder
>
>George W. Bush first met Sharon in 1998, when the Texas governor was
>taken on a tour of the Middle East by Matthew Brooks, then executive
>director of the Republican Jewish Coalition. Sharon was foreign
>minister and took Bush on a helicopter tour over the Israeli occupied
>territories. An Aug. 3, 2006 McClatchy wire story by Ron Hutcheson
>quotes Matthew Brooks:
>
> >If there's a starting point for George W. Bush's attachment to
> >Israel, it's the day in late 1998, when he stood on a hilltop where
> >Jesus delivered the Sermon on the Mount, and, with eyes brimming
> >with tears, read aloud from his favorite hymn, 'Amazing Grace.' He
> >was very emotional. It was a tear-filled experience. He brought
> >Israel back home with him in his heart. I think he came away
> >profoundly moved.
>
>Bush made gratuitous but revealing reference to that trip at the
>first meeting of his National Security Council (NSC) on Jan. 30,
>2001. After announcing he would abandon the decades-long role of
>honest broker between Israelis and Palestinians and would tilt
>pronouncedly toward Israel, Bush said he would let Sharon resolve the
>dispute however he saw fit. At that point he brought up his trip to
>Israel with the Republican Jewish Coalition and the flight over
>Palestinian camps, but there was no sense of concern for the lot of
>the Palestinians. In A Pretext for War James Bamford quotes Bush:
>"Looked real bad down there," he said with a frown. Then he said it
>was time to end America's efforts in the region. "I don't see much we
>can do over there at this point," he said.
>
>So much for the Sermon on the Mount. The version I read puts a
>premium on actively working for justice. There is no suggestion that
>tears suffice.
>
>Then-Secretary of the Treasury Paul O'Neill, who was at the NSC
>meeting, reported that Colin Powell, the newly-minted but nominal
>secretary of state, was taken completely by surprise at this
>nonchalant jettisoning of longstanding policy. Powell demurred,
>warning that this would unleash Sharon and "the consequences could be
>dire, especially for the Palestinians." But according to O'Neill,
>Bush just shrugged, saying, "Sometimes a show of strength by one side
>can really clarify things." O'Neill says that Powell seemed
>"startled." It is a safe bet that the vice president was in no way
>startled.
>
>A similar account reflecting Bush's compassion deficit disorder leaps
>from the pages of Ron Susskind's The One Percent Doctrine . Crown
>Prince Abdullah, Saudi Arabia's de facto leader was in high dudgeon
>in April 2002 when he arrived in Crawford to take issue with Bush's
>decision to tilt toward Israel and scrap the American role of honest
>broker in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. With Bush's freshly
>bestowed "man-of-peace" epithet for Sharon still ringing in his ear,
>Abdullah began by insisting that the president and his aides watch a
>15-minute video. It showed the mayhem on the West Bank, American-made
>tanks, bloodied and dead children, screaming mothers. Then, still
>wordless, they all filed into another room where the Saudis proceeded
>to make specific demands, but Bush appeared distracted and was
>non-responsive. After a few minutes, the president turned to Abdullah
>and said, "Let's go for a drive. Just you and me. I'll show you the
>ranch."
>
>Bush was so obviously unprepared to discuss substance with his Saudi
>guests that some of the president's aides checked into what had
>happened. The briefing packet for the president had been diverted to
>Cheney's office. Bush never got it, so he was totally unaware of what
>the Saudis hoped to accomplish in making the trip to Crawford. (There
>is little doubt that this has been a common experience over the past
>six years and that there are, in effect, two "deciders" in the White
>House, one of them controlling the paper flow.)
>
>Not that Bush was starved for background briefings. Indeed, he showed
>a preference to get them from Prime Minister Sharon who, with his
>senior military aide, Gen. Yoav Galant, briefed the president both in
>Crawford (in 2005) and the Oval Office (in 2003) on Iran's "nuclear
>weapons program." Sorry if I find that odd. That used to be our job
>at the CIA. I'll bet Sharon and Galant packed a bigger punch.
>
>There is, no doubt, more at play in Bush's attitude and behavior
>regarding Israel and Palestine. One need not be a psychologist to see
>ample evidence of oedipal tendencies. It is no secret that the
>president has been privately critical of what he perceives to be his
>father's mistakes. Susskind notes, for example, that Bush defended
>his tilt toward Israel by telling an old foreign policy hand, "I'm
>not going to be supportive of my father and all his Arab buddies!"
>And it seems certain that Ariel Sharon gave the young Bush an earful
>about the efforts of James Baker, his father's secretary of state, to
>do the unthinkable; i.e., crank Arab grievances into deals he tried
>to broker between Israel and the Palestinians. It seems clear that
>this is one reason the Baker-Hamilton report was dead on arrival.
>
>With Friends Like This...
>
>George W. Bush may have the best of intentions in his zeal to defend
>Israel, but he and Cheney have the most myopic of policies. Israeli
>leaders risk much if they take reassurance from the president's
>rhetoric, particularly vis-à-vis Iran. I am constantly amazed to
>find, as I speak around the country, that the vast majority of
>educated Americans believe we have a defense treaty with Israel. We
>don't, but one can readily see how it is they are misled. Listen to
>the president exactly two years ago:
>
> >Clearly, if I was the leader of Israel and I'd listened to some of
> >the statements by the Iranian ayatollahs that regarded the security
> >of my country, I'd be concerned about Iran having a nuclear weapon
> >as well. And, in that Israel is our ally [sic]-and in that we've
> >made a very strong commitment to support Israel-we will support
> >Israel if her security is threatened.
>
>We do no favors for Israeli leaders in giving them the impression
>they have carte blanche in their neighborhood-especially as
>regards Iran-and that we will bail them out, no matter what. Have
>they learned nothing from the recent past? Far from enhancing
>Israel's security, the U.S. invasion of Iraq and Washington's
>encouragement of Israel's feckless attack on Lebanon last summer
>resulted in more breeding ground for terrorist activity against
>Israel. This will seem child's play compared to what would be in
>store, should the US and/or Israel bomb Iran.
>
>Bottom line: there is a growing threat to Israel from suicide
>bombers. The most dangerous two work in the White House.


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