LOL...I think, which means, therefore, I probably am not. LOL Anyway, I
wonder how you might classify my comments on the webpage to the story.
Nonetheless, thanks, Chip, for the debate lesson and google search.
You would love the video "Thank You For Smoking." Mike DuPree
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip Mefford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me
> M&K DuPree wrote:
>> Have you heard of the documentary "Super Size Me?" This guy eats nothing
>> but McDonald's for a month.
>> About dies. Here's a story from our local newspaper about a local
>> restaurant that specializes in
>> local buffalo and elk burgers and other local, organically grown produce
>> doing a "Localize Me" promotion.
>> I've plugged the List in my comments to this story, and I'm embarrassed,
>> but not surprised, by many of
>> the comments to this story.
>
> SNIP.
>
> It's an interesting read, those comments.
>
> Now, here's an exercise in debate 101;
>
> How many of the following logical fallacies can
> you spot in the comments?
>
> ------
> argumentum ad logicam (argument from fallacy)
> in argument form;
> if A then B
> A is false,
> therefore B is false.
>
> To wit;
> P(rotagonist) "I am a man. I drive a car, that means I am a man, because
> men drive cars"
> A(ntagonist) "My sister drives a car, and she is not a man. Therefore
> you are not a man"
>
> --------
> Affirming the consequent
> If A, then B
> B
> therefore A
> (really common on right wing talk radio)
> If Alice were a real communist, Alice wouldn't own any real property
> Alice doesn't own any real property
> Therefore, Alice is a communist
> ---------
> Straw man
> (really really common in nearly all political debates)
> P(rotagonist) " I think global warming is a 'bad-thing'"
> A(ntagonist) "Living in the stone age in no picnic"
> The antagonist has implied that the protagonist advocates
> giving up on all technology, neatly side-stepping all
> debate about what efforts can be made to address the actual
> issue.
> -------
> argument by authority
> Bob makes statement B
> Bob is a noted authority
> Therefore statement B is true.
> (I see this all the time, everywhere, this mail list, and
> pretty much in any and all debates)
> Bob can makde statement B, and this statement may be true
> or false. This is an expressed 'factual claim'.
> However, the conclusion that statement B is true, based
> on Bob's authority, is only implied. Therefore logically,
> it doesn't stand.
> -----
> And the converse, (my personal favorite, the base of our last
> long thread here on the mailing list)
> argumentum ad hominem (argument against the man)
> Christie makes statement C;
> There is something about Christie folks don't like,
> Therefore statement C is false.
>
> This can go on and on.
> And it feeds lots and lots of other logical fallacies.
> Dave claims that polychorinated biphenols found in our
> aquifer are bad.
> Dave is a hippy
> Hippies don't have jobs
> Therefore anyone claiming pcbs are bad is
> trying to take our jobs.
>
> Pretty much anything you hear from news commentators
> here in the US follows this (lack of) logic.
> ---------------
>
> Google logical fallacy sometime.
> It's fun and educational!
>
>
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