Why not? Looks like we could tuck a flat pack under the foot board between the rails. Definitely a hub motor in one of the wheels. Might need some custom spokes. What's the size of the rim? A wired hand control for speed regulation.
Are you going to carry the ghetto blaster, or do I have to figure out how to mount that as well? Darryl Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Darryl; > > What about adding a wheelmotor to a dirtsurfer? That would be my ride > of choice...surfing the trails and sidewalks with style. > http://www.dirtsurfer.com/ > Would have to factor in some extra battery capacity for some sort of > ghetto blaster. Gotta have tunes to ride the groove....lol > > > Joe > > Darryl McMahon wrote: > > >Ah, yes. Wildman Rod rides again! The Ford coupe is a beauty, if a tad > >impractical for most applications. > > > >I think we need to rethink the car before we try to open source it. My > >idea for a plug-in electric hybrid (biodiesel) has been picked up by > >someone else with more resources and I hope to see the initial results > >on Saturday. Rumour has it a book will also come from the exercise (not > >by me). > > > >However, we do need to revisit what we really need from a car today, > >because I don't think the Ford Excursion fits the bill. How about > >quadricycles that can travel at urban speeds (up to 50 km/h), utilizing > >a combination of human and electric power? Or the Twike? Lot's of > >other light-weighting options. Less resources to construct and operate, > >no toxic emissions in operation (well almost; there will be some CO2 > >GHGs from the breathing of the operators). > > > >By comparison, the Smart is a fuel-guzzling pig boasting excessive > >performance. > > > >I have my vintage motorcycle operational again, thanks to my son's > >efforts. A 1973 Aurenthetic Charger. > >(http://www.econogics.com/ev/auranthe.htm) > >Factory original electric mini-motorcycle. Gets almost 50 km to the > >kWh. > > > >Much better than the road-racer 1973 electric Porsche 914 that pigs out > >at 5 km to the kWh. (If I did the math right, that's about 185 mpg, so > >the motorcycle is getting well over 1500 mpg. According to this article > >in Grist <http://evco.ca/electrathon/index.html>, walking gets about 75 > >mpg equivalent. An electric-assist bicycle would get about 3000 mpg > >equivalent.) Tilled the garden on the weekend with an electric tractor. > > Just bought a small, cordless electric rototiller for my mother - she > >loves it. > > > >Gasoline is only expensive if you use it. Go electric and green your > >electricity. Buy locally. We know the answers, the rest is > >rationalizations and convenience. Yes, it does take some effort to put > >it all into practice, and I'm still on the path and far from the goal. > >My advice, make the shift to sustainable practices while fossil energy > >is still cheap. > > > >Darryl > > > >Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hey Zeke, are you familiar with this one? > >>http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/wilde/sterfo1.htm -D > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ---- > >>From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 4:42:18 PM > >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical > >> > >> > >Highest > > > > > >>Level - Adjusted For Inflation > >> > >>Wha?????? I did have to replace the radio in my '91 VW because after > >> > >> > >I > > > > > >>replaced the battery, it went into security mode and wouldn't turn on > >> > >> > >again. > > > > > >>And I refused to go to the dealership to have them fix that. I > >> > >> > >suppose I was > > > > > >>supposed to take it there to get the battery replaced to begin with... > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>This is why I am building my own electric cars. One from a 1974 > >> > >> > >pickup, and > > > > > >>one from a recumbent bicycle (if I lived on the flatland, the regular > >> > >> > >bicycle > > > > > >>itself would be fine.... but pedling up 4,000 feet in elevation gets > >> > >> > >tiring at > > > > > >>times and I'd like electric assist -- solar recharged, of course) > >> > >>Z > >> > >> > >>On 5/22/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Maybe an open source car? > >>The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed. I knew someone > >>who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the radio > >> > >> > >was > > > > > >>stolen. Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix. 80k disposable > >> > >> > >car! > > > > > >> > >>Dawie Coetzee wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>The problem I've got with the Smart is that it embodies the motor > >>>industry's kind of closed-technology, capital-intensive, > >>>disposable, owner-unfixable, economies-of-scale-sensitive approach > >>> > >>> > >as > > > > > >>>much any other new car: possibly even more. I've often wondered if > >>> > >>> > >it > > > > > >>>can be corrected by a few minor tweaks, but every time I've done > >>> > >>> > >that > > > > > >>>exercise I've found that I'd very early cast out every last vestige > >>> > >>> > >of > > > > > >>>the Smart and designed an Austin Seven instead! > >>> > >>>Also, the Smart's brief is to do the job that ought to be done by > >>>walking. -D > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ---- > >>>From: Mike Weaver < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>>Sent: Monday, 21 May, 2007 11:28:29 PM > >>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time > >>> > >>> > >Historical > > > > > >>>Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation > >>> > >>>Still, this morning as I went into the city in my relatively small > >>> > >>> > >VW > > > > > >>>Biodiesel Golf, I saw hundreds of single occupant SUVs > >>>pass me. Why don't we have smart cars in the US? I don't even need > >>> > >>> > >a > > > > > >>>VW most of the time. All I need to carry is a few computers and a > >>>tools. > >>> > >>> > >>>Keith Addison wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>If you put a bit more effort into it I'm sure you can hit $10 a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>gallon soon. > >>> > >>> > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69797.html > >> > >> > >>>>Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices > >>>> > >>>>Best > >>>> > >>>>Keith > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - > >>>>> > >>>>> > >Adjusted > > > > > >>>>>For Inflation > >>>>> > >>>>>US average, self-serve, unleaded regular hits $3.18 > >>>>> > >>>>>This is a point we have been dreading. Before this, > >>>>>the all time highest US average gasoline (regular) price > >>>>>was during 1981 (March IIRC). Adjusted for inflation, > >>>>>we finally topped it, and appear to be still climbing at a > >>>>>steady pace. It was announced on the news yesterday > >>>>>(Sunday) on PBS. > >>>>> > >>>>>CNN verifies it, today: > >>>>>http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/21/news/economy/record_gas_monday/ > >>>>> > >>>>>Here is a webpage, anticipating it, but not being able > >>>>>to anticipate what the number would be, or when it > >>>>>would get reached: > >>>>>http://www.answers.com/topic/oil-price-increases-of-2004-2006 > >>>>> > >>>>>We got close in 2006 > >>>>>http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/07/gas_prices_allt.html > >>>>> > >>>>>We got closer, earlier this month: > >>>>>http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=21867 > >>>>> > >>>>>http://zfacts.com/p/35.html > >>>>> > >>>>>This website that was set up to say "gasoline is cheap" > >>>>>now shows that today it has gotten expensive, by their > >>>>>standards. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >http://www.nationalreview.com/moore/moore082803chart.asp > > > > > >>>>>http://infohost.nmt.edu/~armiller/gasprices.htm > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>><http://infohost.nmt.edu/%7Earmiller/gasprices.htm> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>This one will give you an idea of the kind of misleading > >>>>>verse that we were being fed by Washington, and that > >>>>>some propagandists still spout, even in the face of reality. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >http://www.cted.wa.gov/energy/archive/Indicators99/Indicator24.htm > > > > > >>>>>Here is a radical, George Will, trying to make fun of > >>>>>the concern about gasoline prices, just last month. However, > >>>>>since then, the pump price has gone up 18% (since last month) > >>>>>and is now at the highest price in history, both in actual > >>>>> > >>>>> > >dollars, > > > > > >>>>>and also in inflation adjusted dollars. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR200 > >>> > >>> > >>>>>7040402251.html > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >http://jalopnik.com/cars/gas-prices/never-mind-the-4-per-gallon-heres > > > > > >>>>>-the-summer-road-trips-61124.php This one would be funny, if it > >>>>>weren't so sad: from last month: Quote: "says Tom Kloza, chief oil > >>>>>analyst for the Oil Price Information Service, an energy > >>>>> > >>>>> > >consulting > > > > > >>>>>firm. "The reality is that we're nearing the highs of the year, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >and > > > > > >>>>>within 30 days there will be more gasoline on the market The > >>>>> > >>>>> > >article > > > > > >>>>>was dated 4/25/2007, twenty six days ago, and the quote was from > >>>>>before that. Those prices better drop fast. Instead they have > >>>>>climbed about 15%. Here is an other quote from the deceptive > >>>>>"experts:" "The most recent Energy Dept. forecast, released > >>>>> > >>>>> > >Apr.10, > > > > > >>>>>predicted retail regular gasoline prices would average $2.81 per > >>>>>gallon in the summer of 2007 (April-September)." We are already > >>>>>nearly 40% through that time, and prices are still climbing. Here > >>>>> > >>>>> > >is > > > > > >>>>>another one: ""We expect to see prices flatten around where they > >>>>> > >>>>> > >are > > > > > >>>>>now," says Douglas MacIntyre, senior oil analyst for the f > >>>>>ederal Energy Information Administration, part of the DOE. "More > >>>>>refinery outages and higher crude prices could push it to $3 Since > >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>then the price has climbed about 18%, to $3.18, the highest price > >>>>> > >>>>> > >in > > > > > >>>>>history. More: "experts say consumers are actually getting a > >>>>> > >>>>> > >bargain > > > > > >>>>>at the pump, as prices are still lower than in the early 1980s, > >>>>>adjusted for inflation." Since then the price has climbed about > >>>>> > >>>>> > >18%, > > > > > >>>>>to $3.18, the highest pump price in history. Another: "On a > >>>>> > >>>>> > >national > > > > > >>>>>average, gasoline prices actually decreased for the week of Apr. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >23, > > > > > >>>>>falling 0.7 to $2.87 per gallon" > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20070426/bs_bw/apr2007db20070426139334Since > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > >>>>>then the price has climbed 11%, to $3.18, the highest price in > >>>>>history. Also the old record year 1981 only averaged $2.64 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >(adjusted > > > > > >>>>>to 2006 dollars) while 2006 averaged $2.81, and this year is > >>>>> > >>>>> > >looking > > > > > >>>>>to set a new record average, not just the highest price records. . > >>>>>http://www.swivel.com/data_columns/spreadsheet/2690244 However, > >>>>>gasoline is > >>>>>still a lot more expensive in other countries. And another curious > >>>>>fact. Adjusted for inflation, the cost of oil was around $90 a > >>>>>barrel, back in 1981. It is hanging at around 2/3rds of that > >>>>> > >>>>> > >today. > > > > > >>>>>The difference is going to the oil companies, not for the purchase > >>>>>of oil. 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