Thanks Mikey
   There's a saying: "The devil is in the details".
   The proposed development is anything but green. There is a concerted 
effort by the developers to greenwash it.
   I'm attempting to grasp details that relate to the greenwashing.
Your responses, and others , have been a great help.
                                                           Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mikey Sklar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] "Green" Developer?


> Hi Tom,
>
> I am going to try and address all three of your points in one comment.
> Batteryless PV setups are going to be the PV setup of choice in almost
> all instances for new homes built by a developer. The grid-tie systems
> can be installed in any home that has a local power company that
> willing to do buy back, roll back, or net meetering. Note that small
> towns are exempt normally from buying back power because there is
> often a coop or municpality procidng the power, not a real company.
> Finally, nearky all homes can take solar panels somewhere. If the roof
> is not ideal due to shade or orientation theb pole mounts, trackers,
> or ground mounts can be used. The term PV ready is silky as this list
> surmised early on. You can take either view that all homes are PV
> ready or none are. The truth is that some installs are just easier
> than others.
>
> On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:19 AM, "Thomas Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Mikey, Zeke,
>>               Thanks for the replies.
>>
>>    The design changes required to make a house "PV ready" seems to be
>> related to whether the PV system is designed to be off-grid capable
>> or not.
>> Off-grid requires batteries, inverter(s), charge controllers,
>> grounding
>> considerations, etc. that grid-tie batteryless PV systems do not need.
>>  1. Would it be fair to suspect that a developer who is building 2nd
>> homes
>> (in a "golf community") would lean towards batteryless "PV ready"
>> houses?
>>          (I'll call and ask them.)
>>
>>  2. Is it fair to say that batteryless "PV ready" houses require
>> little
>> more than the ability to mount PV panels with southern exposure (in
>> northern
>> US). Given two, otherwise identical houses, one could be described
>> as "PV
>> ready" simply because it is un-shaded and provides for southern
>> exposure.
>>
>>   3. Wouldn't many houses be batteryless "PV ready" in any above
>> ground
>> development if the total number of houses approaches 1000?
>>
>>     Thanks again,
>>               Tom
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Zeke Yewdall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] "Green" Developer?
>>
>>
>>> Mikey is right -- a battery based PV system is MUCH harder than a
>>> batteryless one.  Our crew can usually complete a batteryless 5kW
>>> system in one day.  A battery backup one... more like 3 or 4 days,
>>> plus a few more times for commissioning wierdities... and that's just
>>> to get it up and running the first time...
>>>
>>> Someone described it this way.... if you want to generate power from
>>> the sun, get a grid-tie batteryless PV system.  If you want hobby,
>>> get
>>> a battery backup PV system.  And if you want a full time job, get a
>>> small wind turbine.
>>>
>
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