Thanks Mikey There's a saying: "The devil is in the details". The proposed development is anything but green. There is a concerted effort by the developers to greenwash it. I'm attempting to grasp details that relate to the greenwashing. Your responses, and others , have been a great help. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mikey Sklar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] "Green" Developer?
> Hi Tom, > > I am going to try and address all three of your points in one comment. > Batteryless PV setups are going to be the PV setup of choice in almost > all instances for new homes built by a developer. The grid-tie systems > can be installed in any home that has a local power company that > willing to do buy back, roll back, or net meetering. Note that small > towns are exempt normally from buying back power because there is > often a coop or municpality procidng the power, not a real company. > Finally, nearky all homes can take solar panels somewhere. If the roof > is not ideal due to shade or orientation theb pole mounts, trackers, > or ground mounts can be used. The term PV ready is silky as this list > surmised early on. You can take either view that all homes are PV > ready or none are. The truth is that some installs are just easier > than others. > > On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:19 AM, "Thomas Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Mikey, Zeke, >> Thanks for the replies. >> >> The design changes required to make a house "PV ready" seems to be >> related to whether the PV system is designed to be off-grid capable >> or not. >> Off-grid requires batteries, inverter(s), charge controllers, >> grounding >> considerations, etc. that grid-tie batteryless PV systems do not need. >> 1. Would it be fair to suspect that a developer who is building 2nd >> homes >> (in a "golf community") would lean towards batteryless "PV ready" >> houses? >> (I'll call and ask them.) >> >> 2. Is it fair to say that batteryless "PV ready" houses require >> little >> more than the ability to mount PV panels with southern exposure (in >> northern >> US). Given two, otherwise identical houses, one could be described >> as "PV >> ready" simply because it is un-shaded and provides for southern >> exposure. >> >> 3. Wouldn't many houses be batteryless "PV ready" in any above >> ground >> development if the total number of houses approaches 1000? >> >> Thanks again, >> Tom >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Zeke Yewdall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org> >> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] "Green" Developer? >> >> >>> Mikey is right -- a battery based PV system is MUCH harder than a >>> batteryless one. Our crew can usually complete a batteryless 5kW >>> system in one day. A battery backup one... more like 3 or 4 days, >>> plus a few more times for commissioning wierdities... and that's just >>> to get it up and running the first time... >>> >>> Someone described it this way.... if you want to generate power from >>> the sun, get a grid-tie batteryless PV system. If you want hobby, >>> get >>> a battery backup PV system. And if you want a full time job, get a >>> small wind turbine. >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/