Just to make a point, I was reading the "ask Umbra" column at Grist magazine. She was re-answering a question about lead in container grown (urban) gardens. She goes on talking about the (U.S.) government's knowledge that lead was unhealthy used in gasoline (and paint) but was allowed because it "was good for commerce". That, is corporatism mixed with government. Making profits at the expense of the general population. And who pays for any sickness from this? The public. http://grist.org/advice/ask/2008/05/05/?source=ask
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chip Mefford Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:52 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again Chris Burck wrote: > the wiki articles place too much emphasis imho on fascism as a > philosophy, though they do discuss corporatism, > production/productivism, and strong government intervention in favor > of the economic elites. im(not so -h)o that has to do with the fact that it's a pejorative term that gets tossed about rather than an apt description. wikipedia is correct to focus on fascism as an economic/governmental philosophy, as that is what it is. Where the fascists and the corporate autocracy cross paths, folks jump for joy and scream fascisti! fascisti! when in point, it's a term that no longer has meaning, rather like nazi, commie, hippie, etc, ad nausium. > > On 5/5/08, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Good URL Andy. Everyone should look at it. >> Most politicians seem to be a sick breed of cat. Power mad sociopaths. How >> they can be so toxic and not even have a hint of their pathology is beyond >> me. >> >> Kirk >> >> Andy Karpay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For "some reason" Wikipedia definition of fascism has lost its references >> to >> merging corporatism with the state (it's what I don't like about Wikipedia). >> However, some common threads can be seen here. >> >> 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs >> http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm >> >> AK >> .....The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin >> of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and >> possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power >> in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone.... >> --- Benito Mussolini >> >> The fascist rat bags who think themselves our betters are now promoting >> their pharma income. The state is a myth. Mussolini got what all good >> fascists deserve. Basically these people will rule you into the ground if >> you let them >> >> Chip Mefford wrote: >> Was that fascist as in /extreme/ nationalism? >> Or is that fascist as in pejorative label applied >> to things we don't like, without any real definition >> or meaning? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 >> messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080504/4f7b3e4d/attachment.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 >> messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 >> messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080505/c91b4ff9/attachment.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 >> messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Chip Mefford -------------------- Before Enlightenment; chop wood carry water After Enlightenment; chop wood carry water --------------------- Public Key http://www.well.com/user/cpm _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
