Stubblebine is a lowlife, a fraud and a con.- however he is very good at his 'professsion' . Or at least he is if you think he has good will towards the avarage citizen or for what is good for the average citizen . His wife, Rima, is of the same caliber - actually she may be worse. But they work together. I personally have a problem with people whose ethics and morals are for sale - or whom just do not have any and all that matters to them is money. However this man and his wife learn form their mistakes and frequently are quite smart ... or cunning , whatever word you want to use. On the other hand those people whom support Codex and how it effects our health and rights, those people will have no problem with the Natural Solutions Foundation nor its founders. Or at least relatively little. Though realize that if you wish to sign any so-called 'petitions' on their website, that frequently these are bogus and do nowhere - at least when they are supposed to be against Codex and for health freedom. . I got most of this information I have on these two from Health Freedom Advocates - both those in the States as well as couple in Britain. The Stubbelbines have also started a yahoo 'health' group - about vaccinations actually. They even frequently ask for donations of the members - the only yahoo health group that I have ever heard of that does that. Most groups will ban you for asking for donations - but I guess as it is the 'owners' who do the asking for some reason it is allowed. A year or so ago, I joined their group out of curiousity and was templed to ask for donations to assist the health freedom effrorts - but got disgusted and left instead. However, I did discuss this group with health freedom advocates in both the States as well as Britain though. I am not involved in this effort myself, I just know some people whom are and have an interest in trying to stop Codex from controlling issues in Canada and the States. I assume that the people here are familiar with Dr Rath and the Rath Foundation? A Modern Major General Exposed? the Natural Solutions Foundation _http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngenera l.html_ (http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngeneral.html) Codex Meeting in Ottawa- Business as Usual or Stunning Victory for Health Freedom? _http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-ottawa.htm_ (http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-ottawa.htm)
Codex and Health Freedom- Be Wary of the Instant Experts _http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-beware.htm_ (http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-beware.htm) Miracle in Rome? _http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-miracle.htm_ (http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-miracle.htm) CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUPS "Citizens for Health" and "Natural Solutions Foundation" are controlled opposition groups on the Codex issue. We believe the true purpose of these groups is to assist the pharma dominated vitamin trade associations by recommending grass roots actions which appear plausible on the surface to the poorly informed, but which upon close inspection fail to hold up to careful scrutiny. IAHF has not been alone in exposing NSF as a controlled opposition group- for additional clarification please see these articles from The Dr. Rath Health Foundation, The National Health Federation, and the Alliance for Natural Health: Seeing Through Spin of "Citizens for Health" and "The Natural Solutions Foundation" on the CODEX Vitamin Issue. - exposes NSF as a controlled opposition group."They're formally trained in Neurolingustic Programming, the Delphi Technique, the Semantic Differential, and many other tactics of psychological warfare and disinformation. The pretend to be "on our side", but the reality is that all they ever do is work against us. " _http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm_ (http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm) Here is a little background info more about Stubblebine plus his wife. CANADIAN SUBMARINE TECHNOLOGIES INC Albert N. Stubblebine III (Maj. Gen., US Army, Ret) - Croton on Hudson NY Albert N. Stubblebine III (Maj. Gen., US Army, Ret) was graduated from The United States Military Academy (West Point) and served with distinction in the US Army for 32 years. Starting his career as an Armor officer, he had the opportunity to command troops frequently at every echelon of command. He was tasked with re-evaluating the North Korean Order of Battle using top secret reconnaissance data. He was so intrigued with the new intelligence capabilities that he transferred branches to join the recently-formed Intelligence Branch of the US Army. He attended the National War College and commanded a series of highly specialized units within the Intelligence Branch. General Stubblebine taught Chemistry at West Point for four years and earned a Masters Degree in Industrial Chemistry from Columbia University, New York during that time. He was selected to serve as a member of the Requirements Committee which identified and created methods to implement the requirements for the US Army over the next 25 years leading to many of the innovations so successfully used in the first Gulf War. His commands as a General Officer included the US Army Intelligence Center and School, The Army's Electronic Research and Development Command (where he developed the now-familiar night-vision technology) and the US Army Intelligence and Security Command. While on active duty he redesigned the intelligence architecture of the United States Army (for which he was honored with induction into the Intelligence Hall of Fame) and also restructured the Army Intelligence training curriculum.Upon retirement, he served as the Vice President for Intelligence at BDM and ran his own consulting firm. With his wife, Rima E. Laibow, MD, General Stubblebine has been engaged in pioneering research on the use of frequency in medicine and national security and is one of the two designers of AEGIS, a major Homeland Security private initiative. Rima E. Laibow, MD - Croton on Hudson NY Rima E. Laibow, MD is a graduate of Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City. During her medical training she received a United States Public Health Service Fellowship in Neurology Research which she carried out while a full time medical student. Upon graduation from Einstein Medical College she completed her residency training in Adult Psychiatry and a Fellowship in Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at St. Luke's Hospital Center of Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York City. She has been practicing drug-free medicine as the Medical Director of her private practice for over 3 decades. Dr. Laibow routinely seeks better, less toxic and more effective ways to assist people in their healing processes by identifying and correcting the underlying cause of maladies, diseases and problems. This depth-seeking approach has led her into research and novel solutions to the problems which lead to illness in a variety of areas. She has either authored or funded significant research in several fields, founded scientific and educational organizations, organized international scientific congresses and participated in and helped to stimulate, pioneering work in several medical and non-medical fields. Dr. Laibow is recognized as a pioneer in Integrative Healthcare and is both a sought-after lecturer, media consultant and on-screen guest for radio and TV shows such as Oprah and NOVA. Dr. Laibow continues to forge new territory in the application of frequency science in the medical and security arenas. She is the founder and president of the Neurotherapy Certification Board and an editor of the Journal of Neurotherapy.She is also the architect, along with her husband, Major General Albert N. Stubblebine III, of AEGIS, a comprehensive Homeland Security private initiative which has the potential to increase security across the North American land mass while reducing government expenditures significantly. _http://canadiansub.com/Board.html_ (http://canadiansub.com/Board.html) Personally I think Stubblebine does know exactly what he does - saying he is deranged is excusing him... at least in my perception. And yes, you are right Keith, this is 'sheer BS' .Part of what annoys me so much about Stubblebine and Rima is how they bamboozle, lie and con patients who are ill and have memory & cognitive issues. Maybe I am naive, but I keep getting this urge to tell them to 'pick on somebody their own size'...... Dr Rath is not sick and is very good at sticking up for himself but many people on the yahoo lists just are not as capable..... blessings Shan >No, he is outside the expectation of a military officer. Just too >free a spirit perhaps. More like a deluded one perhaps, or a somewhat deranged one perhaps. Let's put it this way: it's sheer BS, it shouldn't even have been posted. >Who else retired would step up to the plate No need to put it quite so nobly. Step up with what, is the question. Stepping up with fact-free conspiracisms and perhaps not being very honest about it isn't a contribution to anything other than confusion. > - well maybe Benton K. Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.) 8908 >Captains Row Alexandria, Virginia 22308 703-780-7652. > >_http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm_ (http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm) >oklahoma bombing My word, Kirk, you will have your conspiracies won't you. Got any facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean, got any that someone like me will accept as facts? The list itself is the same, it has a long and honorable tradition of being rigorous, as you know. We're quite happy to explore possibilities or we wouldn't have achieved what we have, but sheer conjecture dressed up as fact isn't included. >Partin was a research scientist - invented the continuous rod warhead. >very qualified guy. Made bombs, nice. Couldn't we have done without more and better bombs? Best Keith >Kirk > >The eyes see what the mind knows > > >--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence >Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM > >>The stargate project was spook remote viewing. > >Does spook mean spy or ghost, in this context? > >Stargate was devoted to **psychic** remote viewing, "the purported >ability to psychically 'see' events, sites, or information from a >great distance". Bit superfluous to say it wasn't exactly successful. >Echelon works at least, on the other hand, for instance, as opposed >to pixie dust. > >>CIA put effort into it. > >I know, but I don't think that gives it much cred. The Soviets tried >it too, that's why the US tried it. It achieved nothing. > >>Not as woo woo as you might think. > >Totally woo woo, IMHO, just as I thought. > >Sure, maybe some people are psychic or clairvoyant or even >telepathic, maybe everybody is, or could be, maybe that's how the >whole biosphere really works, who knows, but trying to use >clairvoyance as a reliable technique for intelligence gathering or to >support conspiracy theories is ludicrous. > >Wikipedia will do, very easy, no need to go any further: ><_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project) > > >Anyway, is this to suggest that a wacko like long-retired ex-Major >General Stubblebine has some credibility with his 9/11 conspiracy >theories, or with anything else? Because of Stargate? > >Stubblebine was forced to retire in 1984 and was replaced because of >his obsession with the paranormal. ><_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Majo r_General_Albert_Stubblebine_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Major_General_Albert_Stubblebine) > > >Not very surprising - "The primary mission of military intelligence >in the United States Army is to provide timely, relevant, accurate, >and synchronized intelligence and electronic warfare support to >tactical, operational and strategic-level commanders." Not a trivial >matter. If you were a field commander would you want someone like >Stubblebine doing that job for you? > >How do you explain the deception in the YouTube title? > >> > The headline says: "U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically >> > States 9/11 was Staged Event". >>> ... >> > Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army >>> intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same >> > thing eh. >> > ... >> > Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate? > >Hey, Kirk, do some checking first, will you, please? > >Best > >Keith > > >>Kirk >> >>The eyes see what the mind knows >> > > >>--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Douglas Woodard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>From: Douglas Woodard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence >>Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event >>To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >>Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 9:42 AM >> >>No conspiracy was needed. >> >>Bin Laden knew what the U.S. wanted: an excuse for U.S. armies in the >>Middle East. >> >>The U.S. knew what Bin Laden wanted first: a major strike at the U.S., >>by preference at the World Trade centre (they had tried before, and it >>was highly symbolic). >> >>They differed on what the result of U.S. armies in the Middle East would >>be. Points to Bin Laden. >> >>Doug Woodard >>St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada >> >> >> >>Keith Addison wrote: > >>> <_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFP_zKYU3aE&NR=1_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFP_zKYU3aE&NR=1) > >>> >>> Aarghh!! Youtube! Who's got 5 min 16 sec to spare? >>> >>> This is quicker... >>> >> > The headline says: "U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically >>> States 9/11 was Staged Event". >>> >> > But is he the Head of US Military Intelligence? No. >>> >>> It takes only the first 5 sec of Youtube for him to state that his >> > name is Major General Albert Stubblebine, and another 10 sec to find >>> this at wikipedia: >>> >>> "Major General Albert "Bert" N. Stubblebine III was the commanding >>> general of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command >>> from 1981 to 1984, when he retired from the Army. He is known for his >>> interest in parapsychology and was a supporter of the Stargate >>> Project." >>> <_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine) > >>> >>> Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army >>> intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same >> > thing eh. >>> >>> (Walked through any walls lately Bert?) >>> >>> That saved 5 min 1 sec, and gave a much better result. >>> >>> Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate? >> > >>> Matthew Rothschild of the Progressive again: "Enough of the 9/11 >>> Conspiracy Theories, Already" <_http://www.alternet.org/story/41601/_ (http://www.alternet.org/story/41601/) > >>> >>> If it doesn't start off with the preferred conclusion-of-choice and >>> then go in search of the "facts" to "prove" it, but instead simply >> > goes in search of facts, along with all the patient and careful >>> cross-checking that takes, and then emerges with a fact-based >>> conclusion that checks out, or even with just some hard facts without >>> a conclusion... well then, that's different. But AFAIK it hasn't >>> happened yet, and don't hold yer breath. >>> >>> Best >>> > > > Keith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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