FWIW;

Another vote for SMA inverters. Yeah, not cheap, but worth it. Solid
technology. 

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zeke Yewdall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 10:10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Solar, Wind & other Alternatives
> For the grid-tie inverters, we have been using the SMA inverters quite
> a
> bit... not the cheapest ones out there, but they work reliably and do
> tell
> you what's going on -- we've used a lot of chinese made ones, and the
> failure rate has been less than desirable (30% or so on one brand).
> 
> Z
> 
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Thanks for the info on the Trimetric battery meter
> > Zeke
> >
> > I did a quick Search and came up with
> > http://www.bogartengineering.com/
> > for starters, will read up on it and will find out the best /
> > cheapest way
> > to get one, as we seem to be ripped off for everything here in AU
> > Esp
> > on Electrical Gadgets it probably will be cheaper to Import it from
> > Anywhere other than AU !
> >
> > No the Regulator doesn't have a meter just a few LEDs
> > Being a bit of nerd that way I like to know more accurately
> > what my figures are even though I am not that electronically Capable
> >
> > It drives me crazy for instance my 1kw Grid Inverter is a PVEdge
> > it only has a very basic readout that only shows the units it has
> > created since day one and for present readings it has 4 LEDS
> > 25%, 50%, 75% and 100% and you don't know just exactly what you are
> > collecting at any one given time
> >
> > I recently got my 86 year old mum into a 1.5 kw Grid solar setup
> > ( $2200 installed Govt contributed 7000$ ) and her inverter tells
> > you
> > just about everything !
> > I am tempted to get it hooked to her computer and then I can monitor
> > it
> > Via TeamViewer from 100kms away from her place
> >
> > I have a new link for the Regulator
> >
> > MPPT60-2, 15V to 95V,3600w output Regulator
> > Paid $300.00 Normally $649.00
> > http://www.gsl.com.au/mppt60.html
> >
> > Just as a point of interest as well When I put my system in just
> > over
> > 2 years ago
> > the electricity Company ( Synergy) paid us 47cents per unit.
> >
> > They have since changed it to only 7 cents per unit.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > At 07:06 AM 6/08/2012 -0600, you wrote:
> > >The link to your charge controller didn't work, so I'm not sure
> > >exactly
> > >what it has and does not have. But, usually, the meter for the
> > >solar
> > >panels is built into that.
> > >
> > >If not, a good all around meter is the trimetric battery meter --
> > >it will
> > >measure battery voltage, and net amps (PV minus load -- so in a way
> > >it's
> > >measuring both your load and your PV, just not independently) as
> > >well as
> > >tracking amp hours in and out of the battery, to give you a battery
> > >state
> > >of charge (yes, you can also get that with a hydrometer, but it's
> > >way
> > >easier to look at a little display than to pop the battery caps off
> > >and
> > >take a hydrometer reading every few hours. It's about $185 here in
> > >the
> > >US... not sure if there are australian distributors or not.
> > >
> > >Z
> > >
> > >On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Folks
> > > >
> > > > I live in a small town 100km from Perth Western Australia
> > > > and I have put ( on a very limited income ) up 1kw system
> > > > ( subsidised by our Govt, my cost was 2500$ they contributed
> > > > 8000$ )
> > > >
> > > > I did this just over 2 years ago, and as the way the grid system
> > > > works,
> > > > if the grid power goes out, so does the solar system so we are
> > > > still no
> > > > better off .
> > > >
> > > > So the Alternative Energy Bug Bit harder !
> > > >
> > > > I decided to set up a stand alone system and have been slowly
> > > > getting together this ...
> > > >
> > > > System to date and costs so far
> > > >
> > > > 4 x Trojan 6V golf cart Batteries 205 amp/hour each
> > > > ( this system is 24 volt )
> > > >
> > > > These Batteries are 8 months old 4 for $200 as
> > > > apposed to 175$ ex GST each new
> > > > in Aust.
> > > >
> > > > ( Secondary lighting bank for led lighting and miscellaneous
> > > > uses
> > > > 2 x 12v 89amp/HR marine/Truck/4wd batteries )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/lights-electrical/automotive-batteries/4wd-truck-marine.aspx?id=5072
> > > >
> > > > ( Am Still deciding if I will go 12v for lighting )
> > > >
> > > > 2 x Monocrystalline Solar Panel 180W (24V)
> > > > Paid $300.00 each . Normal price $669.00 EACH
> > > > http://www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=item&id=N0180
> > > >
> > > > MPPT60-2, 15V to 95V,3600w output Regulator
> > > > Paid $300.00 Normally $649.00
> > > > http://www.gsl.com.au/products/solar_regulators.html#product3
> > > >
> > > > 4 x 6m lengths of 50 x 50 angle Iron for frame
> > > > to mount solar panels on roof.
> > > > with 10% Discount from Midalia Steel Welshpool
> > > > Paid $148.00 Including cutting to 1.6m lengths
> > > >
> > > > (* I changed the design after buying the steel and
> > > > could have saved buying 1 length of angle ! *)
> > > >
> > > > Calibre Battery Charger - 6/12/24V, 10 Amp, Smart
> > > > Paid $144.00 normally $219.00
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Calibre-Battery-Charger-6-12-24V-10-Amp-Smart.aspx?pid=125650#Description
> > > >
> > > > 24V x 1000 Watt (3000W Surge) Pure Sinewave Inverter
> > > > paying $358.00 normally $699.00
> > > > http://www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=item&id=M8018
> > > >
> > > > I am looking and considering a Grid tie setup as well.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to find and purchase
> > > > 1 x 24v or switchable 12/24v meter to
> > > > mount near the gear to visually monitor
> > > > the solar out put of panels
> > > >
> > > > Also 1 x 24v one for the future Wind Turbine
> > > >
> > > > and as the inverter doesn't have a output meter
> > > > (for present power being consumed )
> > > > one for that as well (24v input & 240~255 output)
> > > >
> > > > And Maybe 1 x 24v meter to monitor the condition
> > > > of batteries
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions on where to purchase these meters
> > > > at a good price would be gratefully accepted
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I will when I can afford it purchase a 24v x 500w wind Turbine
> > > > and also considering a VAWT / generator as well
> > > >
> > > > I am finding once you get into your own Power generation
> > > > it is somewhat like gold prospecting it gets in your blood
> > > > and you cant stop !
> > > >
> > > > Though I still haven't made any BioDiesel, I do at some time
> > > > hope to
> > > > and I imagine my addiction will carry onto that as well.
> > > >
> > > > This is a Brilliant channel on YouTube to check out
> > > >
> > > > OBXSOLWIND's channel
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/obxsolwind?feature=results_main
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Could we add a bit more into The Biofuel Group on the
> > > > Alternative
> > energy
> > > > AROUND the world ESP as different countries have different power
> > > > options IE in Aust we are 240 volt.
> > > >
> > > > We now live in a global community and America isn't the center
> > > > of the universe anymore GRIN!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Keith
> > > > Love your Work
> > > >
> > > > Tony Lush
> > > > Toodyay ( Pronounced 2J)
> > > > Western Australia
> > > >
> > > > PS
> > > > *** I live on a disabled pension and decided
> > > > that if i want to make my dreams come true
> > > > I have to find a way to do it, and that is one
> > > > item at a time and be patient boy it feels
> > > > good to be getting close to completion! ***
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You don't have to see the whole staircase,
> > > > just take the first step.
> > > >
> > > > - Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968)
> > > >
> > > >
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