Agreed, Joel. A carbon tax would be very helpful.

Cap and trade especially with free carbon credits and offsetting leads to gaming the system, using offsets of questionable value, dumping their carbon their carbon responsibilities on poor communities and countries, and actually inhibiting the transistion to alternative energies including more creative ways to develop and utilize them.

The tax also provides far greater effort to conserve espeically as a tax shift away from payroll taxes for instance.

Jeanne

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel and Sarah Gagnon <[email protected]>
To: Sustainable Tompkins County listserv <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 24, 2009 11:40 am
Subject: Re: [SustainableTompkins] becoming YIMBYs

The big yes should be to conservation. It will get us the farthest the
fastest. Then solar thermal, including biomass (stored solar) and
geothermal. Then wind, hydroelectricity, and solar electricity. We need the incentive of rising prices for fossil fuels to get on with it, and I think we will get it this time, as we did not in the 70s. A carbon tax would be
very helpful in all this.

Joel

At 09:38 AM 11/23/09 -0800, you wrote:
So we say no to coal, nuclear, gas and oil. Then what? What are we
saying
yes to? Some rail against wind mills saying they will ruin there view
or
kill too many birds. And wind mills and solar panels take more energy
to
create than they produce over their life. Where does that leave us?
What
do we say YES to?

There was an interesting IJ article last week on a visit from a Danish
company talking about "thermal energy district heating" and their
country's 30 year shift from a 99% energy importing country to an
exporter
of energy. In 30 years! While also "decreasing its noxious emissions
by 13
percent in 20 years." How's that for leading by example!

http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20091118/NEWS01/911180356/1124/T
aking-a-lesson-from-the-Danish

But we missed that boat. If we had continued on that track in the 70s
when
we had the chance, maybe we would be in the same boat. But the
political
climate of the 80s derailed all of the good work spurred by the energy
crisis. And here we are today, trying the squeeze gas out of stone and
swallowing mountain tops to satisfy our energy thirst.

There is no silver bullet that will save us, only partial solutions
that
will ease our decline. Investment in wind and solar seem the only
viable
direction, even if they are only "energy stores" that hold current
input
for use 50 or more years from now when fossil fuels are scarce. Maybe
they
will let us down slowly. Maybe a break through will make them more
viable,
cheaper to produce. Without focused investment and effort, we will
never know.

So I implore you, rather than just saying no to fracking and nuclear
and
coal, think about what you want to say YES to. What do you want in
your
back yard?
Eric




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