Hello, I am a svg begining user. I did not know about xaml. I had a look on http://www.xaml.net/, and has been surprized with the comparaison between svg and xaml. Just a stupid question, is there any plan for svg to be in 3D one day ? Gil -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of welkerpaul Sent: 31 juillet 2005 17:18 To: [email protected] Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Shit, or get of the pot
Holger, I do appreciate your efforts in sharing your knowledge and moderating this newsgroup very much. Nevertheless your response to the very much vital questions concerning svgs future is not sufficient, nor acceptable in that manner. Reckless of the danger beating a dead horse, these repeated questions are valid and need decent answers if you're looking for a future use of the technology. Adobe's attitude (`sorry, due to our policy/merger in progress we cannot announce future plansÂ…') kills svg. Please do realize that competing technologies (flash, flex, vml , xaml) do show off a well communicated roadmap. Admittedly, these competing technologies are not committee standards. The ironic thing about it is that some people answered Rick Bullota recently they'd rather like to see no broad adoption of svg than varying adoptions. My goodness, svg is a cluttered and fragmented beast for any implementer by design! In the medium term svg would need native support by all the browser vendors to be relevant. Svgt ought to be doable, but I'm afraid svgt is deplorable and not worth the effort in future. Might be a different situation concerning the mobile phones industries, yet they're volatile and face general problems like content accessibility aso.. Back to your post, that might show through a little of svg's disease. Did you realize that svg will be something useless unless a majority of all web clients will be able to render svg content? Does it help svg to spread firefox? Even 50%+ firefox share would still be useless. Foul-mouthed `best viewed with browser x version y.z' statements again?? Obviously I do not need a full blown w3c specification just to be able to watch my own content with my own favourite superior software configuration? So, since svg cannot wait for an improbable 100% native browser support any time soon the stale plugin route seems the only way out. Obviously adobe is the only entity having the power of enabling it's undercover svg-imageviewer for the internet browser through their readers update mechanism for the masses. Takes us back to the attitude thingÂ… Why do I think these questions do need tidy answers now: it should help people to avoid wasting their time and money. Svg's competing technologies are currently shaping up better than svg. Even one of svg's predecessors, the meanwhile presumed dead vml has a bright future. I'd guess it won't be too long before openoffice supports vml. Best Regards Paul --- In [email protected], Holger Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Francis > > > Which entity is going to support SVG? > > Me !!! and some other small companies like: > Mozilla.org, IBM, Novell, Sun ... are all supporting SVG on the > desktop... also the mobile industrie, including manufactures like > siemens, motorolla... and cariers like vodafon, > have clearly shown their support for SVG. > > > Adobe obviously has not followed > > through with its original commitment to develop an SVG viewer and > > development environment via their W3C relationship. > > Adobe+Macromedia will not drop SVG( see the newly created sites about > SVG at adobe ). > http://www.adobe.com/svg/main.html > > additionally we all know that the ASV6 viewer was meant as an SVG1.2 > implementation. therefor we will not see a new SVG viewer by Adobe > before SVG1.2 becomes recommendation. > so why do you wonder there is no new viewer ? > > > Who really cares > > why Adobe dropped the ball..?? > > did they ? really ? what makes you believe ? > > > Let's face reality: Unless a quality > > entity picks up the pieces, > > do you think MS is the only quality entity on this planet? > > following companies support SVG ( just to name a few ) > > Mozilla ,IBM ,Sun ,Novell , Siemens, Vodafon, Motorolla, SAP, HP,Kodak, > Sharp, KDDI, Agfa ,Nokia , Sony/Ericsson, Apple, Corel ... > > why do you think these are no quality entitys? > > > we're going to be wasting our collective > > time. > > maybe you are wasting your time in constantly asking this kind of > questions , and im wasting my time in trying to answer them, again and > again. if you think your are wasting your time with SVG, > just go away, use something else... do whatever you please. > > Holger ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- SPONSORED LINKS Format Data Svg Computer internet W3c ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- YAHOO! 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