Hey Paul, Are we siamese twins that were originally connected via our brain?... Then surgically seperated at birth, and have finally reconnected in the realm of SVG??
Maybe so, but, I must tell you, I got the looks, you probably got the brains. Francis --- In [email protected], "welkerpaul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Holger, > I do appreciate your efforts in sharing your knowledge and > moderating this newsgroup very much. Nevertheless your response to > the very much vital questions concerning svgs future is not > sufficient, nor acceptable in that manner. > Reckless of the danger beating a dead horse, these repeated > questions are valid and need decent answers if you're looking for a > future use of the technology. Adobe's attitude (`sorry, due to our > policy/merger in progress we cannot announce future plans ') kills > svg. Please do realize that competing technologies (flash, flex, > vml , xaml) do show off a well communicated roadmap. Admittedly, > these competing technologies are not committee standards. The ironic > thing about it is that some people answered Rick Bullota recently > they'd rather like to see no broad adoption of svg than varying > adoptions. My goodness, svg is a cluttered and fragmented beast for > any implementer by design! In the medium term svg would need native > support by all the browser vendors to be relevant. Svgt ought to be > doable, but I'm afraid svgt is deplorable and not worth the effort > in future. Might be a different situation concerning the mobile > phones industries, yet they're volatile and face general problems > like content accessibility aso.. > Back to your post, that might show through a little of svg's > disease. Did you realize that svg will be something useless unless a > majority of all web clients will be able to render svg content? Does > it help svg to spread firefox? Even 50%+ firefox share would still > be useless. Foul-mouthed `best viewed with browser x version y.z' > statements again?? Obviously I do not need a full blown w3c > specification just to be able to watch my own content with my own > favourite superior software configuration? > > So, since svg cannot wait for an improbable 100% native browser > support any time soon the stale plugin route seems the only way out. > Obviously adobe is the only entity having the power of enabling it's > undercover svg-imageviewer for the internet browser through their > readers update mechanism for the masses. Takes us back to the > attitude thing > > Why do I think these questions do need tidy answers now: it should > help people to avoid wasting their time and money. Svg's competing > technologies are currently shaping up better than svg. Even one of > svg's predecessors, the meanwhile presumed dead vml has a bright > future. I'd guess it won't be too long before openoffice supports > vml. > > Best Regards > Paul > --- In [email protected], Holger Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Hi Francis > > > > > Which entity is going to support SVG? > > > > Me !!! and some other small companies like: > > Mozilla.org, IBM, Novell, Sun ... are all supporting SVG on the > > desktop... also the mobile industrie, including manufactures like > > siemens, motorolla... and cariers like vodafon, > > have clearly shown their support for SVG. > > > > > Adobe obviously has not followed > > > through with its original commitment to develop an SVG viewer and > > > development environment via their W3C relationship. > > > > Adobe+Macromedia will not drop SVG( see the newly created sites > about > > SVG at adobe ). > > http://www.adobe.com/svg/main.html > > > > additionally we all know that the ASV6 viewer was meant as an > SVG1.2 > > implementation. therefor we will not see a new SVG viewer by Adobe > > before SVG1.2 becomes recommendation. > > so why do you wonder there is no new viewer ? > > > > > Who really cares > > > why Adobe dropped the ball..?? > > > > did they ? really ? what makes you believe ? > > > > > Let's face reality: Unless a quality > > > entity picks up the pieces, > > > > do you think MS is the only quality entity on this planet? > > > > following companies support SVG ( just to name a few ) > > > > Mozilla ,IBM ,Sun ,Novell , Siemens, Vodafon, Motorolla, SAP, > HP,Kodak, > > Sharp, KDDI, Agfa ,Nokia , Sony/Ericsson, Apple, Corel ... > > > > why do you think these are no quality entitys? > > > > > we're going to be wasting our collective > > > time. > > > > maybe you are wasting your time in constantly asking this kind of > > questions , and im wasting my time in trying to answer them, again > and > > again. if you think your are wasting your time with SVG, > > just go away, use something else... do whatever you please. > > > > Holger ------------------------ Yahoo! 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