I'll be happy to help with SVG open paris 2008 if any ... This would have to be confirmed but we could probably use INRIA conference center for free... Best DJ
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bolger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG Open 2006 San Diego? > In fairness to SVG Open, it being a "very_young" > graphics conference in contrast to SIGGRAPH. > SIGGRAPH has learned and developed a process > by which the "Venue" is set 4 years in advance. > So as we could all be "scouting":) locations within > the respective format, Paris might be good for 2008, > San Fransisco in 2009:-) > > Michael > > > > Michael Bolger wrote: > >>Hi Francis and Doug, as I was helping with this >>process, in the spring 2005 was a basic list >>of locations to "investigate": >>1) San Fransisco >>2) Victoria/Vancouver >>3) San Diego >>1 and 3 required a 30-50% down on venues >>1 year in advance (preferred is 2 years in advance), >>let us say modestly $50,000 cash down:( >>with all the turbulence around Adobe-Macromedia >>(not that it was their fault), the timing for funding >>was just not in the cards. >> >>Kurt and his team will do a great job, British Columbia >>has an outstanding group of XML folks, Victoria, >>all things considered will be a big winner for SVG. >>It is wonderful up there:). >> >>regards >>Michael Bolger >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Francis Hemsher wrote: >> >> >> >>>Doug, >>>As always, you are well-informed. I agree with your evaluation of >>>Kurt, his efforts, and Victoria. But you must understand that I >>>believe that SVG can best be served by a serious US recognition at >>>this time. Shucks, if the opening came to San Diego, I probably >>>would have work SO hard to help it happen..I don't want this. I'd >>>rather go to Victoria and enjoy its lovely environment. >>>Anyway, if others feel that SVG would be best supported at this time >>>by coming to San Diego U.S., and they can offer their support, then >>>let that be an indicator...If none respond, then I am wrong in my >>>assumptions. >>> >>>Francis >>> >>> >>>--- In [email protected], "Doug Schepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi, Francis- >>>> >>>>Actually, as I learned at SO2005, the original location for SVG >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Open 2006 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>was slated to be San Francisco, but the plan had to be nixed. I >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>think the >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>reasons cited were a lack of local sponsors willing to commit >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>early on (a >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>serious blow) and trouble finding a venue that could keep costs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>down. Nobody >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>else stepped up to the plate, and I am personally very >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>appreciative to Kurt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Cagle for jumping in at the last minute to arrange for it to be in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Victoria, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>BC, Canada. He had to scramble to take care of those 2 things, and >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>he did it >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>well (though I'm sure there's still much to do on those accounts). >>>> >>>>Another factor, as I understand it, is that it can be rather >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>difficult in >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>this post-9-11 America for foreigners to get US visas on short >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>notice (say, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>3-6 months). This would threaten the number of possible attendees >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>and >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>presenters (who might not know whether their presentations were >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>accepted >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>until a few months beforehand). >>>> >>>>Besides, Victoria is beautiful, and it's easily reached from the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>US. I don't >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>see how it threatens the US SVG market or American attendees at >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>all. As for >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>the US being the best market, just try to buy an SVG-enabled phone >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>here. :( >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Plus? In Victoria? Kick-butt whale-watching rides on a zippy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>little zodiac! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I didn't see any whales, but it was like a 2-hour long log-flume >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>ride >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>cracking over those waves. And I got to eat seaweed right out of >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>the ocean. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>(The only thing I got in San Diego was a really bad case of >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>sunburn...) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>It is a very challenging commitment for someone to undertake the >>>>organization of a conference, and while it's regrettable that not >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>every need >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>can be accomodated, I salute those who are willing to take on the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>task. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Regards- >>>>Doug >>>>Mysterious SVG Conspirator At Large >>>> >>>>doug . schepers @ vectoreal.com >>>>www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions. >>>> >>>> >>>>Francis Hemsher wrote: >>>>| >>>>| I think it is extremely foolish of the SVG powers-that-are to >>>>| continually ignore the US to host its open. Do you think we >>>>| are a bunch of unaware SVGers? If so, you are much >>>>| un-informed, and offer an insult to your best market. I don't >>>>| understand this hesitancy on your part? >>>>| Are you afraid the the US market will take away your control >>>>| of a currently weak SVG presentation? You're probably right. >>>>| Do you want SVG to succeed, or would you rather it continue >>>>| to meander in the limbo of its present existence? >>>>| >>>>| Francis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>----- >>To unsubscribe send a message to: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>-or- >>visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my >>membership" >>---- >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ----- > To unsubscribe send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -or- > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > membership" > ---- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Most low income households are not online. 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