1- There no server-side XMLHTTP needed. It is 100% Client process. (All it need is an SVG file form the server.). .
2- It is not 100% SVG1-2 but it support all graphic and cascade style. 3- Me My staff want a web-base simple SVG editor that we can work anywhere (for ourself). Accessible to anyone of us. 4- I like one that can play SVG on 99.9% of the webserver population. Easy for Web develpoer do do one WEB-page that it display the same no matter what browser it is IE 4-5-6-7?? FF 1 -1.2 -1.5 Opera ? AOL ? NS ?? 5- Timing? It slower because it is interpreted Vs compiled. Depend on how much how big one change it may or may not fit for GAME/animation purpose. But it may fit on other purpose such as map dynamic image generator such as a web-base image drawing. 6- We are not just starting it. but it has been worked for long. On 1/31/06, Ronan Oger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Phi, > > Your idea of a web-enabled SVg renderer is great and I support the concept > if > y. Is that an SVG-1.2-full renderer? I am interested to see how you will > support things like SMIL events and xmlhttprequest-driven > serverside-driven > updates. If you manage this, I will be very happy. Even if you only > support > SVGT, that would already be excellent. > > However, I have some issues with your point of view: > > 1. Why do you say adobe has abandoned SVG? Have Adobe pulled ASV and > forbidden you from using it? As far as I an tell, this has not happened. > Adobe may have decided to stop developing ASV as a product, but so what? > That's their own loss. There are other SVG viewer implementations out > there, > and at least one on the very near horizon. > > 2. There is already an SVG viewer solution for every platform: Batik. And > for > each major platform, there is at least one SVG implementation. If you mean > cross-browser SVG support, I do not think you can expect much joy. After > all, > it is a bit much to ask modern developers to continue to support IE6 > forever. > After all, IE6 is really starting to show its age and is totally out of > date. > Microsoft can refuse to update their browser, but they do so at their own > risk. And while rumours of a pending IE7 abound, I'm not holding my breath > for this to be usable on current hardware. I'll be pleasantly surprised to > hear of IE7 running on WindowsXP on a 2004-2006 PC or laptop. > > 3. There is a lot more to SVG than rendering the pixels. time management, > transparency management, and event handling are fairly complex things that > will be difficult to mimick in dhtml and javascript alone. Of course, you > *could* generate pixel maps of an SVG drawing, but doing so is pointless. > Exactly what SVG is good at, pixel maps suck at... distinct object context > handling. > > 4. Does your cross.browser free SVG editor work on Konqueror? Can you show > a > link? Is it better than Batik-based SVG editors? > > 5. I do not understand why people starved for an SVG plugin to IE6 do not > simply compile a Batik applet to handle their SVG. Shouldnt that work? > Sure, it would be fat... But it would work. and bandwidth is pretty good > these > days. For web2.0 apps, this solution should suffice. > > 6. I am not sure what you mean by dealing with black boxes. The source > code > for every SVG implementation in the wild except ASV and CSV is freely > available. All you need to do is read it. > > Ronan > > On Tuesday 31 January 2006 20:53, Phi Tran wrote: > > But as you know ADOBE is abandoned SVG viewer. > > And > > 1- It is not CROSS-BROWSER such as IE > > 2- I don't like to deal with black box. I want to allow the Web author > more > > flexibility such as to know that color a point is; or he/she what to > just > > move/change one item/element . . . > > 3- It just a sub product of my Cross-platform/ Cross-browser web-base, > Free > > SVG editor. > > > > Hope You may Understand. > > > > > > Phi > > > > On 1/31/06, Ronan Oger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I fail to understand why you would want to build a plugin from scratch > > > for SVG > > > when instead you could contribute to Mozilla's SVG team, or > Konqueror's > > > SVG > > > team, which are open source, and help those implementation get better. > > > > > > I'd suggest you contribute to an existing SVG browser implementation. > > > > > > Ronan > > > > > > On Tuesday 31 January 2006 19:17, Pedro Henrique de Lira wrote: > > > > OK, > > > > > > > > but we need a plugin similar to flash plugin, > > > > with all functions of the specificaition 1.1 W3C. > > > > > > > > Don't you think ? > > > > > > > > []s > > > > > > > > Phi Tran escreveu: > > > > >FYI. > > > > > > > > > >Yes. and No. > > > > > > > > > >Yes there are some models floating on the NET. > > > > > > > > > >1- Server side java base SVG -> Png (from SUN and GOOLE). (You can > > > > > > obtain > > > > > > > >source ??). > > > > >2- Java base Applet that can render SVG image. (Not very > impressive) > > > > >3- Similar to FishEye Menu (on the net). Requiring client/server > round > > > > > trip? 4- I have first hand knowedge of a Client side Javascript > SVG > > > > > render It look sleek. Hoppfully it will be available in a few > week. > > > > > > > > > >On 1/31/06, Pedro Henrique de Lira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >>Hi, > > > > >> > > > > >>There are some plugin opensource that reinderized svg images in > the > > > > >>browser IE and FF that get all funcionalities in the > especification > > > > > > 1.1 > > > > > > > >>disponibilized for the W3c....otherwise we can start this > > > > > > ideia/solution > > > > > > > >>??? > > > > >> > > > > >>I know that the FF 1.5 had the svg *INTERNAL* but not have all > > > > >>funcionalities and not is good to depend the plugin of the adobe > wich > > > > >>was been abandoned. > > > > >> > > > > >>thank's > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>----- > > > > >>To unsubscribe send a message to: > > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>-or- > > > > >>visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit > my > > > > >>membership" > > > > >>---- > > > > >>Yahoo! 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