Ermm

Funny this, what are my views on actionscript 3 and the death of SVG

Not much. For example how many full flash proper applications have you
seen (not many, not proper ones)

How long has flash been around? 10 years, maybe more so why isnt the
web 90% flash driven? I have not seen any proper corporate proper full
flash driven sites.

Why isnt the www.bbc.co.uk flash driven, ebay, microsoft, dell, what
about Tescos.co.uk, why isnt that.

How many flash deselopers (design developers) around? apparently 1
million, which is sod all and macrodobey admit this is crap.

I used flash extensively for 5 years and now I deal with many large
corporate and fortune500 companies, mention flash, all fall on floor
laughing.

We are talking serious companies, flash has the image of 14 year old
boys messing with circles and text and moving them. Its software to
make adverts, nothing else.

I am talking from experience and many PROPER developers would not
touch flash, why do you think MacroDobey are trying to figure out a
way of getting developers to use flex etc... no chance, not with
proper developers and 14yr old that cant affords flex

I loved flash until 3 years ago (i did flashverts) and i turned to SVG
- oh by the way i have i nice car outside bcos of it.

What i find funny is that when xaml comes out it will strengthen svg
and xaml for both microsoft and SVG and leave the 14yr olds to move
circles and text around with the words "look how cool this is" in flash

I went to a conference with top developers (some of the biggest names
in the UK and basically no one gives a Sh**t about flash)

Marodobey are missing the point - Include SVG in flash and you compete
with XAML through the flash player. Dont include it and XAML will take
over in the business apps side.

It will leave MacroDobey with a target audience of 12-16 year olds,
leaving the proper stuff to SVG and XAML

Also - two of the top companies who I work with have a turnover of
over 700 million have flash disabled on all PC's in the entire
company. The websites use animated gifs for any small animation if
required.

I personally think that XAML will be good for SVG cos some clever
person will write a translation between the two and they will both be
the winners.


Richard




















--- In [email protected], "James C. Deering"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Chuck" <sunnylachuck@> wrote:
> >
> > This just appeared on the adobe website and seems to indicate that 
> > ADOBE has plans to aggressively market flash as the vector format of 
> > choice.
> > 
> >
http://labs.macromedia.com/wiki/index.php/ActionScript_3:overview#Action
> > Script_3.0_Overview
> > 
> > I like to keep an open mind but I do not think SVG will ever be 
> > practicle for commercial high-performance RIA's. I have been waiting 
> > for years for a platform independent persitent sockets only to be 
> > frustrated having to settle for the AJAX hack.
> > 
> > With flash features such as XMLsocket and SPRITE class there are real 
> > possibilities for creating large scale component based SCADA gui's 
> > granted that the actionscript and flash player performance is
improved. 
> > According to the announcement you can expect up to 10x performance
soon.
> 
> I've been waiting for someone to market a SVG application builder
for years. Once "Flash" 
> has the ability to present SVG in a protected environment with full
scalability, I'll be happy 
> and ready to rock. Hope it's sooner then later.
> 
> James
> http://deerring.com
>





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