Just a stray thought, someone had posted an example of a Google Maps mashup that used a driving path that could be dragged/adjusted in real-time. If that app actually snapped the waypoints to spots in the map and then gave the new driving directions that corresponded to real street corners, etc I think that would be amazing. Of course this isn't trivial ;)
Jeff --- In [email protected], "Jeff Schiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To everyone on this list: > > I did get a private reply from Chris Wilson of the IEBlog a few days > ago and have debated whether to relay the news. Here goes: > > Chris stated that they are not planning to include ASV with IE7 for > reasons that: a) it is an ActiveX control (whether he means security > issues or the Eolas thing) and b) Adobe isn't actively maintaining > that control. > > On the flip side, he also said that they expect to natively support > SVG at some point, but can't give any further details (citing that the > roadmap is still being worked out). They are aware how much demand is > there for it, though. > > Finally, he said that he expects to address this eventually in the > IEBlog at some point. I think this would be a good idea. > > Quick question to those who have tried IE7 Betas: Do they bundle the > Flash plugin? Maybe the best bet now is to get Adobe to include the > ASV as part of the Flash plugin? Maybe John F can speak to this? The > silence is deafening... > > There is comfort in the fact that ALL other major browsers are > actively pursuing SVG support (Opera, Firefox, Camino, SeaMonkey, > Safari, Konqueror). Even despite the market share, this does put > pressure on the IE team to keep parity. It will happen eventually. > > As SVG support matures in the other browsers and becomes a little less > sketchy, I think we'll start to see web apps that "work better" or > "look nicer" or have increased functionality in browsers other than > IE. The nice thing is that there is now more than one free > alternative to IE, the challenge is overcoming the 'Blue E = Internet' > mindset of the masses. Does anyone really think that IE's dominance > in TODAY's web is not due to its automatic deployment on all Windows > PCs? IE has been obsolete for more than 2 years and they still have > significant catch-up to do for standards support. > > Anyway, I think it's up to us as SVG developers/evangelists to > convince people that SVG is worthwhile and start building out those > "wow" applications. Heck, let's make those applications XHTML+SVG > with suggestions to IE users that they can update themselves to one of > the free alternatives to use the site (and some screenshots of what > they're missing, of course). > > Of course this is dependent upon getting alternative browser support > of SVG into a more even/reliable state (in my mind this equates to > Firefox supporting declarative animation, can others give their > opinion on Konqueror and Safari levels of support?). > > Whoof - once again a small email has turned into a long diatribe, my > apologies! > > Regards, > Jeff > > --- In [email protected], Jean-David Benamou > <jean-david.benamou@> wrote: > > > > I dont know why but I woke up this morning thinking about this vote > > (probably the bad democratic shape of France ...) > > > > I wish as much as everyone does on this list that SVG becomes THE > > graphic Standard on the web but I am just kind of sceptical about > > this "vote" thing : > > > > * First : I cant see why democracy rules would apply in such a setting > > MS calls to vote might hide other purposes ... > > * Second : Assuming (as it seems) that there is a more or less > imminent war > > between MS and Adobedia around RIA technologies, I cant see why MS would > > bundle ASV in IE and thus introduce some kind of dependency to Adobe. > > * Third : However if Adobe finally decides to completely abandon > SVG, > > then including SVG support in IE maybe makes sense strategically ? This > > would explain why Adobe is so silent about their intent about SVG. > > > > Jean-David > > > > Jeff Schiller wrote: > > > > >Francis, > > > > > >Not sure why I'm nominated, but thanks - I guess ;) > > > > > >Anyway, I did send a request to Chris Wilson on his personal blog > > >feedback form for more information regarding SVG in IE and in > > >particular what was said about SVG and IE at MIX06. I never received > > >a reply, I assume he's swamped. > > > > > >However, tonight the IEBlog did put up links to MIX06 videos (each at > > >1-hour long). Go read my summary here: > > > >http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2006/05/04/the-future-of-internet-explorer-and-web-standards/ > > >there was a small mention of SVG in the middle of one of the videos. > > > > > >Regards, > > >Jeff > > > > > >--- In [email protected], "Francis Hemsher" > > ><Francis.Hemsher@> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Hello All, > > >> > > >>I've looked at the recent votes, and its at about 185 and continuing. > > >> > > >>I guess we could go on for the next few months and build this to any > > >>number. I think it's time to make a statement to the IEblog, rather > > >>than extend this further. > > >> > > >>I'd like to nominate Jeff Schiller to revisit that blog to present > > >>the "SVG Developers Statement", based on the comments from the > > >>voting list. > > >> > > >>This statement would assist the IE7 team to make a decision, and see > > >>the future if the right decision is made. > > >> > > >>We can quicky build this statement on this list, giving opportunity > > >>for all to provide their input. > > >> > > >>Francis > > >> > > >>--- In [email protected], "Doug Schepers" <doug@> > > >>wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>Hi, Francis- > > >>> > > >>>Nice work getting this ball rolling. I'm not sure how much affect > > >>> > > >>> > > >>it will > > >> > > >> > > >>>have, but it certainly can't hurt. I also posted this to SVG.org. > > >>> > > >>>Francis Hemsher wrote: > > >>>| > > >>>| P.S. hopefully we will be a legitimate bug for IE8's native > > >>>| SVG Object. > > >>> > > >>>There will probably be updates between IE7 and IE8... let's hope > > >>> > > >>> > > >>they > > >> > > >> > > >>>include SVG ASAP. > > >>> > > >>>Regards- > > >>>Doug > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- > > >To unsubscribe send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-or- > > >visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit > my membership" > > >---- > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get to your groups with one click. 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