Hi Fulio,

abandoned does not mean that the viewer isn't available anymore. The download 
is still 
available at http://www.adobe.com/svg/. It just means that they currently don't 
develop it 
any further, unless some big customer forces them to.

This doesn't mean that Adobe stopped all SVG activities. Its still supported in 
many Adobe 
products, incl. Illustrator, GoLive, Indesign, etc.

I guess parts of the reason is that Adobe bought Macromedia, but also, that SVG 
is more 
and more supported natively in browsers, nowadays. All browser vendors are 
currently 
working on improving or adding SVG support. This is much better than having to 
rely on 
plugins, anyway. Given that fact, why should Adobe invest in a SVG plugin and 
not just 
concentrate on delivering authoring solutions?

Currently, we have a number of webbrowsers supporting SVG naitvely, we have 
commercial viewers, like the ones from Bitflash, Ikivo, eSVG, etc. and Apache 
Batik. So, 
there is choice. Batik, just recently added initial SMIL support to the trunk 
version, soon to 
be released in the stable release.

SVG is not dependent on Adobe anymore. It can live without Adobe.

The reason I say that, is that I'd like to tell people to realize and accept 
that they have to 
develop and test their SVG graphics and applications in multiple browsers and 
viewers and 
not just in the Adobe SVG viewer in Internet Explorer.

But it also opens a lot of opportunites. SVG will be better integrated in the 
rest of the 
webworld, one can mix SVG with HTML or embed HTML in SVG, or have SVG graphics 
as a 
background graphics in the browser, etc. All things that are nearly impossible 
with the use 
of plugins. Also, problems like the Eolas patent, etc. go away, if SVG is 
natively supported 
in the browser.

Andreas


--- In [email protected], Fulio Pen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I like to make sure that my understanding is correct.   The ASV has been 
> abandoned by 
Adobe.  So no download of the viewer is available.  There are quite a few svg 
files in my 
personal web site, and more will be added.  I always tell the visitors of my 
pages that they 
have to download the ASV to view the graphics.  
> 
> If Adobe has abandoned the viewer, do I have to tell my visitors that they 
> must purchase 
a commercial software, as listed in the quoted message below,  to view the svg 
files?   This 
must be a fatal blow to svg.  
> 
> Thanks in advance for clarification. 
> 
> Fulio Pen
> 
> 
>  --- In [email protected], "Andreas Neumann" <neumann@> wrote:
> 
>  > Adobe abandoned the SVG viewer and currently there is no visible
>  sign that they will release a new version.
>  > 
>  > Other options are:
>  > 
>  > * Batik (Java)
>  > * Bitflash viewer (commercial)
>  > * Ikivo Viewer (commercial)
>  > * eSVG (commercial)
>  > * any of the browsers with native SVG support (e.g. Opera, Mozilla),
>  don't know if one can 
>  > embed them
>  > 
>  > Andreas
>  
>  
>      
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