Hi Andreas: Thanks a lot for your explanation. I feel good for SVG becoming more popular and more convenient on the browsers.
Fulio Pen Andreas Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Fulio, abandoned does not mean that the viewer isn't available anymore. The download is still available at http://www.adobe.com/svg/. It just means that they currently don't develop it any further, unless some big customer forces them to. This doesn't mean that Adobe stopped all SVG activities. Its still supported in many Adobe products, incl. Illustrator, GoLive, Indesign, etc. I guess parts of the reason is that Adobe bought Macromedia, but also, that SVG is more and more supported natively in browsers, nowadays. All browser vendors are currently working on improving or adding SVG support. This is much better than having to rely on plugins, anyway. Given that fact, why should Adobe invest in a SVG plugin and not just concentrate on delivering authoring solutions? Currently, we have a number of webbrowsers supporting SVG naitvely, we have commercial viewers, like the ones from Bitflash, Ikivo, eSVG, etc. and Apache Batik. So, there is choice. Batik, just recently added initial SMIL support to the trunk version, soon to be released in the stable release. SVG is not dependent on Adobe anymore. It can live without Adobe. The reason I say that, is that I'd like to tell people to realize and accept that they have to develop and test their SVG graphics and applications in multiple browsers and viewers and not just in the Adobe SVG viewer in Internet Explorer. But it also opens a lot of opportunites. SVG will be better integrated in the rest of the webworld, one can mix SVG with HTML or embed HTML in SVG, or have SVG graphics as a background graphics in the browser, etc. All things that are nearly impossible with the use of plugins. Also, problems like the Eolas patent, etc. go away, if SVG is natively supported in the browser. Andreas --- In [email protected], Fulio Pen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I like to make sure that my understanding is correct. The ASV has been > abandoned by Adobe. So no download of the viewer is available. There are quite a few svg files in my personal web site, and more will be added. I always tell the visitors of my pages that they have to download the ASV to view the graphics. > > If Adobe has abandoned the viewer, do I have to tell my visitors that they > must purchase a commercial software, as listed in the quoted message below, to view the svg files? This must be a fatal blow to svg. > > Thanks in advance for clarification. > > Fulio Pen > > > --- In [email protected], "Andreas Neumann" <neumann@> wrote: > > > Adobe abandoned the SVG viewer and currently there is no visible > sign that they will release a new version. > > > > Other options are: > > > > * Batik (Java) > > * Bitflash viewer (commercial) > > * Ikivo Viewer (commercial) > > * eSVG (commercial) > > * any of the browsers with native SVG support (e.g. Opera, Mozilla), > don't know if one can > > embed them > > > > Andreas > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates > starting at 1�/min. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

