> One hassle here is that IE/ASV blocks access to much of scripting > through <object>. > > See > http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/javascript/frames/objectTest.html
Great! Your sample is crashing my IE7+ASV6beta environment! :-D Probably due to a know issue where loading several simultaneous SVG objects leads to a high instability state of Internet Explorer (crash occurs in mshtml.dll, IE's rendering engine DLL. Nevertheless it's not clear that the crash is provoked by an invalid sequence of operations on the ASV side, for example). > <embed> is <i>one</i> of the only ways I've been able to verify that SVG > - HTML scripting will work across browsers. > > A few remarks, though that qualify this: > > 1. Dave Raggett has explained to me some ways of tricking IE to > work with <object>. I still have to experiment with this 'til I > understand it. Yes, I've also already mentioned in a couple of previous posts [1] [2] a simple but effective tutorial [3] on how to accomplish it. Give it a try! ;-) > 2. Some have argued that Adobe is no longer relevant in the SVG > world since they are dropping out in Jan 09: hence eliminating the need > to worry about IE/ASV in our tutorials and advice. Are they really > dropping out then? Usually if we beg nicely, they have changed their > minds, or so it has seemed. Although this is highly improvable, due to the commercial interests involved, I'd love to see some community/public initiative with this in mind (maybe a petition online or similar). :-) > 3. How big is the installed base of SVG users who are actually > using IE/ASV? Any estimates? If we multiply P(Illustrator ownership) by > P(IE usage) x #users, this would give a strict lower bound and it is > still, I suspect, a larger number than some browsers can claim for > market share. I wouldn't risk throwing a number as ASV was, AFAIK, mostly deployed when embedded into Adobe (Acrobat) Reader. As Adobe Reader evolved, the application's automatic update feature made sure ASV (as we see it) may already been unplugged from most (?) Internet connected machines... :-| As a final note, I believe that using an HTML fallback with a static image (if applicable) or a link+instructions on how to install ASV (or any other alternative) plug-in is a simple yet effective approach. :-) Regards, Helder Magalhães [1] http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/60373 [2] http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/60763 [3] http://joliclic.free.fr/html/object-tag/en/object-svg.html ------------------------------------ ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ----Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
