Thanks Erik,
I don’t think I’d have figured out .ownerDocument.defaultView.frameElement using the British Museum Algorithm despite my fondness for it! You can see why I was interested at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/text/texteffects2.htm (Opera will be needed for these, though, because of advanced filter effects and animation!) I would have done it with straight SVG, as in the static versions at http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/text/texteffects2.htm but didn’t see any way to embed SVG in SVG other than through <image> and then the animations don’t work (except for maybe some SMIL in a random browser here or there). SVG does make for better thumbnails than HTML where one needs to go over to the serverside and consume resources, make files and increase one’s carbon footprint, in order for the little things to scale. The above two collections of effects (41 in all) represent an interesting collection of what can be done with text in SVG currently (allowing for the use of <replicate> as frequently required for 3D effects). I hope SVG 2.0 will allow for the sorts of things Israel Eisenberg has been talking about at http://owl3d.com/svg/tests/boundText/ (stretching and distortion of glyphs). While SVG1 allows a single path to control the shape of the baseline, allowing two paths: one for baseline and the other for top alignment makes good sense. These examples also provide another sort of hixie-free-koolaid test. Giving scores of 0, 1 or 2 for the static ones, and 0,1,2 or 3 for the animated ones, here’s how the browsers stack up on this particular battery of fancy font frivolity: Total points possible: 91 (64 static and 27 animated) Opera 60 + 27 = 87 (some oddities with dash-array) Firefox 51 + 14 = 65 chrome 42 + 7 = 49 Safari 0 + 13 = 13 (note: Safari crashes on the first set, so it really isn’t testable) IE9+ASV 43 + 20 = 63 (note, my installation of IE9 defaults to ASV when the <object> in HTML is of a certain type, helping, obviously with the animation score. Another note: the browsers are penalized a point each when they don’t fit the text on the screen using textLength="100"[%] lengthAdjust="spacingAndGlyphs" So unfortunately, browsers like Firefox get overly dinged for what is really just one or two relatively small features. Another oddity, with Opera: the pauseAnimation and unpauseAnimation are caused by mouseover events associated with the <object>. If one moves from directly one object to another, those events are not heard. The other browsers don’t seem to have this problem. Cheers David From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Erik Dahlstrom Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 5:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [svg-developers] finding the HTML <object> whose SVG was clicked upon On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:29:55 +0200, David Dailey <[email protected] <mailto:ddailey%40zoominternet.net> > wrote: ... > I start out with an HTML document with a bunch of <object>s each > containing > a different SVG. You could perhaps use <a href=your.svg><img src=your.svg></a> element instead of <object>? > However, knowing which SVG document I have seems to reveal neither which > particular <object> it was housed in (from which I could interrogate its > "data" field) nor the URL containing the now selected SVG document. What element referenced/embedded the svg is possible to find out, see this example: http://xn--dahlstrm-t4a.net/svg/html/from-svg-to-parent-html-script.html >From an element elm inside the svg that was embedded by reference: var embedding_elm = elm.ownerDocument.defaultView.frameElement; Cheers -- Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [email protected] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ----Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
