> On Sep 18, 2019, at 07:58, Kyle Evans <kev...@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:46 AM Enji Cooper <yaneurab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 07:33, Enji Cooper <yaneurab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 05:40, Kyle Evans <kev...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:34 AM Enji Cooper <yaneurab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 18:58, Kyle Evans <kev...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Author: kevans
>>>>>> Date: Wed Sep 18 01:58:56 2019
>>>>>> New Revision: 352465
>>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/352465
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>> googletest: default-disable on all of MIPS for now
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Parts of the fusefs tests trigger a bug in current versions of llvm: IR
>>>>>> representation of some routine for the MIPS targets is a function with a
>>>>>> large number of arguments. This then leads the compiler on an hour+ long
>>>>>> goose chase, which is OK if you build the current tree but less-so if 
>>>>>> you're
>>>>>> trying external toolchain or doing a universe build involving mips when 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> eventually gets switched over to LLVM.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Better, accurate details can be found in LLVM PR43263.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Uhhhhh... why not do this in tests/sys/... instead?
>>>> 
>>>> Because there's still value in being able to easily enable these for
>>>> building/running the complete set of tests through standard build
>>>> infrastructure, but it's not worth adding a knob specifically for the
>>>> fusefs tests. I also prefer the communication of it being an
>>>> off-by-default option and easily deduced from src.conf(5) that this
>>>> part of the build is default-disabled on mips/mips.
>>> 
>>> Let me rephrase things a bit: is googlemock broken for all of mips, or is 
>>> it just the tests? If the latter, the tests should be blacklisted for mips 
>>> with a justification. If the former, I agree your method of dealing with 
>>> the situation is ok, but more investigation needs to be done to see whether 
>>> or not the port (in general) is broken and mark it broken if need be.
>> 
>> It looks like the latter case, based on the PR, and it’s a build performance 
>> issue... Is this impacting CI pipelines?
>> 
> 
> It is the latter, and I do not want to *blacklist* them because as far
> as I can tell, the tests aren't necessarily broken. I want to
> workaround them for default by now.
> 
>>> The problem with src.opts.mk’s per-architecture options, is that it can be 
>>> very heavy handed enabling/disabling features. I’m not sure that everything 
>>> in there warrants disabling at that level.
>> 
>> My investigation suggests that the course of action was overly heavy handed. 
>> While I’m not asking for a revert, it would be really nice if whole features 
>> weren’t disabled, unless there’s an issue with the feature.
>> 
> 
> We do not have a lighter method for dealing with this that I can tell,
> because as I said above: I do not want to blacklist them or completely
> kill them off. I still want the option to build and test them, but as
> I aim to switch mips over to llvm I do not want to subject CI and the
> rest of the world to an extra 1.5+ hour build time for this during
> tinderbox runs.
> 
> Given that it's mips, so already tier-high, and I'm one of few people
> that care about it (and I only care about it for the time being), I
> intend to leave it as-is since it's still a default in the rest of the
> world.

Ok, valid straw man argument: in this particular case, should llvm / c++ 
support be disabled instead, since it’s the real underlying issue? I’m guessing 
(non-ancient) g++ doesn’t have this issue.

Again, disabling a framework because of a single issue in the tests doesn’t 
make sense. Unless you have proof that the build times for all of 
googletest/googlemock with llvm is an issue, this seems like the wrong 
remediation to perform.

-Enji

PS A heads up to asomers and myself would have been nice. I don’t like 
post-commit nitpicking, since the issue could have been discussed/reviewed 
before commit.
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