Hi, happy to do that and understand what you say. As specifier for our own
web development, mainly e-learning and VoIP networks, I have good global
knowledge with pockets of intense knowledge as and where needed, currently
Flash and SWFObject being a pocket to get up to speed with enough so I can
to ensure we benefit from Flash best.

It will take about a week and will be under its own thread.

Again, I really congratulate you all for the way you support your product.
Wish proprietary products developers would get even half way to what you do.

Regards Jonathan


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Getify Solutions, Inc.
Sent: 15 October 2008 17:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IE error message - swfobject is undefined



Jonathan-
I think you've got some good points... but I would say that there are 
several ways that have been attempted to "idiot-proof" SWFObject, or at 
least cushion the blow to a person who doesn't have as much experience.  One

is the code generator (http://www.swffix.org/swfobject/generator/) , which 
we promote on here all the time.  Another is the FAQ's and the API guide, 
and even just the test-suite (looking at real, working code is really 
helpful, I think!).  Another is this tutorial video that was made by Lee 
Brimlow:  http://www.gotoandlearn.com/player.php?id=77

All these are resources that are free and available, and most of the time, 
when an "idiot" (and I don't mean that in a bad way at all!) asks a question

here, we try to calmly guide them back to one or more of those resources, as

99% of the time it resolves their issues.

The problem is, as Bobby says, SWFObject is like a box of legos... we could 
put together 10 different sets of instructions on building 10 different lego

models.  But in the end, the model that you want will have to have some (or 
a lot) of customization to work well on your site.  SWFObject is not 
turn-key, but it's pretty good at doing *most* of the work for an author, if

they just get the first 10% right.  Those resources are there to help them 
do just that.

I think it'd be great if you could compile a list (in a separate email 
thread) of "what you know, and what you don't know, and what know now but 
wish you knew then".  If nothing else, it'd be a thread that we could point 
to as yet another resource when those new to the land of SWFObject come 
calling.  :)

Thanks for your feedback!

--Kyle



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From: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:13 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: IE error message - swfobject is undefined

>
> Hi all in SWFObject, I would like to add a small comment to this 
> picking
> up
> the "idiot guide" below. I read all the q's and a's in this forum to help
> build my understanding of SWFObject and so many like me and the writer 
> below
> send in questions only because to new 'idiots' many bits of what we read 
> is
> not understandable, for example just finding the .js script. It took me 3
> weeks after reading all on deconcept and many Google searches to find the
> actual location and what to click. I seen others on this forum asking the
> same.
>
> You guys supporting SWFObject put in an amazing amount of time 
> answering questions, some of you seem to answer no matter what time of 
> day, for a free resource I don't know how you manage it, no doubt 
> there are payoffs in other
> ways. Anyway you do a great job dealing with our 'idiot' questions - and
> those where people have not bothered to look, or frustrate you so much you
> terminate the thread !!!
>
> You give your instructions assuming the reader has a level of basic 
> knowledge, but, if only someone could write them assuming that nothing 
> is known. Although I have got reasonable html knowledge and web 
> experience, reading SWFObject notes leaves my head spinning trying to 
> work out what some terms mean or leave me in mid air not understanding 
> what happens next.
>
> If it helps, I could send your user notes highlighting what leaves me, 
> as
> an
> 'idiot' completely perplexed, including the ones I have since got to
> understand. It could greatly reduce the calls on your time.
>
> Regards Jonathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of flashman
> Sent: 15 October 2008 10:31
> To: SWFObject
> Subject: Re: IE error message - swfobject is undefined
>
>
>
> Cheers Bobby,
> Obviously I was missing the link to that important little file. I
> appreciate
> all the work you guys are putting into this, it would be really good if
> someone could write an idiot guide on how to implement the method. Even
> after reading all the documentation carefully I'm still fuzzy about a 
> couple
> of things.
>
> Anyway, fuzzy but now happy and grateful for your help
> Thanks
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2:16 am, Bobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The swfobject.js file cannot be located 
>> at:http://www.winghamakoostikfestival.com/swfobject.js
>>
>> Inside <script type="text/javascript" src="swfobject.js"></script> 
>> you can set your path to your swfobject.js file on your Web server, 
>> e.g.: <script type="text/javascript" src="js/swfobject.js"></script>
>>
>> Where you upload it is up to you.
>
>
> >
> 



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