Hi Fred,
Thank you,
I realize that people have already made streaming document readers,
what surprises me is that there are some that are not.
The problem with most commercial solutions lie with the fact that
they tend to rely on the flimsy abstraction with the appropriate
moniker of 'Cloud', which basically means "No Idea Where But They
Probably Won't Go Under With My Data". I'm sure that is appropriate
for most consumables but it is not something that I can justify to
my client who wants to store preserve books for posterity. Raid is
not backup, S3 wisely does not pretend to guarantee the integrity of
your data.
I need something that can be installed on our servers, can convert
and serve media from our server without external dependencies.
This is something that most companies in your line of business would
balk at, because it would in most cases it quickly becomes apparent
that the 'product' amounts to the functionality of shell scripts
calling opensource or worse yet, modified opensource programs.
I wonder how many companies will be based in non-extradition
countries once AGPL becomes the norm.
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Fred <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Joe,
Thanks for sharing your view. I have no intention to harass you. I
am not a Sales guy, by the way. J
I have written to you because I catch some of the request that you
made, may have already being engineered into a complete solution.
I will follow up with you on a separate email to address "please
tell me what it is that your product has to offer me."
My sincere apology if I appeared to be intrusive.
Regards,
Fred
From: Joachim Larsen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 12 February, 2009 10:36 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Swftools-common] highlight links (not on hover)
Yes their product lists for 4k, they offered it for 250 towards a
good cause.
Thanks Fred, but I am not about to advise my client to pay money for
something that should be free.
Quite frankly the gall of companies charging exorbitant prices for
something they pieced together from opensource software is a bit
nauseating. Where would you be without pdf2swf? Where would your
engineers be without having been able to build on and learn from the
work of those before you?
And now you spend your time peddling trinkets on mailing lists. Get
a real job. I've spent the last 2 (two) days looking at actionscript
and there are no technical difficulties there.
What is it exactly that you are selling?
Front End Engineers' (using that term lightly here) time on elements
that are packaged inside the viewer for some strange reason rather
than having handles for javascript calls so it would be easily
skinnable and adaptable?
S3 storage that runs at $0.15 per gigabyte month at its priciest?
(with no guarantees that data loss won't happen)
There seems to be no real product, although, there is a service
that involves pdf2swf + DRM wrappers and wrappers for S3's REST API.
Here, take my wallet.
From my initial request on this mailing list regarding technical
information to solve my problem I have so far received 4 unsolicited
sales pitches. Yes I understand that times are tough, but unless you
are scribd and have a functional community you don't have a product
here. You have the model all backwards. I am sure that you are able
to sell your product to lazy and/or unqualified 'webmasters' or
'content publishers' or whatever they call the people who felt it
was a hard choice choosing between making a career in business
management, realty or IT.
It makes me feel hollow, sad and vaguely wondering how much I could
have picked up in real estate.
Sorry for the rant, please tell me what it is that your product has
to offer me.
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Fred <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Joe,
If your mentioned "rubbish" can charge 4K USD, I am sure that our
solution is not shy in matching this offer. This can be further
negotiated for a good cause, as you mentioned.
Most important, the solution fits your need.
If you're interested to explore further, I can request for a trial.
Thanks.
Regards,
Fred
From: Joachim Larsen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 February, 2009 8:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Swftools-common] highlight links (not on hover)
Is that an offer to donate to a good cause?
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Fred <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Joe,
Are you also exploring a ready available solution for your client? I
can connect you up with our sales team.
Demo: http://tinyurl.com/8m56la
Regards,
Fred
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
] On Behalf Of Joachim Larsen
Sent: Wednesday, 11 February, 2009 6:38 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Swftools-common] highlight links (not on hover)
Hi Guys and Gals,
I stumbled over this thread while trying to solve a problem for a
client, basically they were using ajaxdocumentviewer.com which was
rubbish, turns out they use pdf2swf and wrap some DRM stuff around
it, and charge 4k usd for a viewer which can't handle streaming.
My client is building an online repository for hosting rare free
ebooks, some are available from the gutenberg project but many are
not english language books. This is especially meant for people in
poorer regions where access to print books is unavailable or
prohibitively expensive. He has a database and pdf versions of over
50,000 titles some of which are rendered to pdf files over 100mb in
size. Using th pdf2swf with no switches renders this to a 300mb swf
file.
Streaming capabilities are a must.
I have 0 flash experience but not opposed to getting my hands a bit
dirty.
What can I do to get this functionality?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Also I apologize if I've breached some point of mail-list
netiquette, I am well versed in this new-fangled hi-tech
communication avenue that you young kids like to play with.
Best Regards,
Joe.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Anand <[email protected]> wrote:
Any new updates on the pageflip ?
From: matt cline <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:29:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Swftools-common] highlight links (not on hover)
Thanks for hijacking my thread. Roger, since you've been so helpful
to me, here are two players I'll be releasing open source shortly.
One is single frame one is flip, both are load on demand.
http://www.pdf2xml.com/demo/display-magazine.php
http://www.pdf2xml.com/demo/flip/sample.html
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Chris Pugh
<[email protected]> wrote:
You know what I meant ... you come up with the idea, and you post the
source code!
be proactive, just like you have been with the wiki. ;o)
As to viewers that are already out there, well the source code for
many of them is
available to all who care to look. Have you downloaded and started
on one yet?
Cris, well I'm sure he knows exactly what you want to do with his
viewer!
Oh, and ever so coincidentally, please don't use CAPS, there's a good
chap. I'm not deaf
you know. Save that, excitable chap that you are Roger, for your
mobile phone conversations.
Chris. [ Exeunt Stage Right ]
PS Way off topic, and verging into the jocular and ribald no less!
Enough List noise I think, yes? ;o)
2009/1/28 Roger Chinchilla <[email protected]>:
> Why don't I start my own viewer and you recommend me to "copy/
reinvent" ones
> that are already out there.....well....thats exactly what I am
trying to do
> with Rusu's viewer....HELLO!!
>
> Roger
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Chris Pugh
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Likely story! ( Don't you just 'hate' people who are so busy on
their
>> mobile phone,
>> that they can't be bothered to communicate properly? ) :o).
>>
>> .. and why don't you start you *own* viewer Roger? There are so
many out
>> there
>> to copy/reinvent!
>>
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> 2009/1/28 Roger Chinchilla <[email protected]>:
>> > Sorry I was on my mobile phone and forgot to put a (wink) or
something.
>> > By
>> > the way the Rusu Viewer is looking really good. Anyone know
when it will
>> > be
>> > Open Source?
>> >
>> > Roger
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Chris Pugh <[email protected]
>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> *I* didn't. ( In fact, I'd have been very surprised indeed if
you'd
>> >> even tried doing that! ) But maybe you should have added a
>> >> qualifier, as in '(tic)' or ';o)' somewhere Roger??
>> >>
>> >> On the contrary, pushing your thunbs firmly up on the base of
the brow
>> >> bone under the top of the eye socket ( the
>> >> 'supraorbital foramen' I think ), is supposed to help with
stress and
>> >> relief of migraine. Just watch they don't slip .. ;o)
>> >>
>> >> Chris.
>> >>
>> >> >2009/1/28 Roger Chinchilla <[email protected]>:
>> >> > I just kidding about the holding the finger to your eyes to
make the
>> >> > links
>> >> > pop out. Please don't take it the wrong way.
>> >> >
>> >> > Roger
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Chris Pugh <[email protected]
>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As I said, links *ARE* buttons. However, you didn't state
you were
>> >> >> using pdf2swf..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The only command that I know of for an on the fly change, is,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> pdf2swf -v -s linkcolor= <RRGGBBAA> file.pdf { where
linkcolor
>> >> >> value is in Hex ).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> but this only affects the background color of the link
itself, on
>> >> >> hover, and is not
>> >> >> permanent ( option is sort of misleading really). Looks
like
>> >> >> routine could be
>> >> >> opatched to produce the reverse effect, or else, it's a two
stage
>> >> >> process. Mattias?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Chris.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2009/1/28 Matt Cline <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> > Hi chris,
>> >> >> > Thank you for your input. I don't need an example of
manipulating
>> >> >> > buttons
>> >> >> > but do need an example of how to include that
manipulation for
>> >> >> > every
>> >> >> > link on
>> >> >> > a page during pdf2swf sad generation.
>> >> >> > Thank you
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Chris Pugh <[email protected]
>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Matt,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> A link is simply a button made up of text. Therefore
whatever
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> can
>> >> >> >> do with the attributes of a button you can also do with
a 'link',
>> >> >> >> i.e. change almost everything about it's appearance, and
>> >> >> >> function.
>> >> >> >> Do you need an example?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Incidentally, I hope Roger's post was intended to be
well tic.
>> >> >> >> It
>> >> >> >> was
>> >> >> >> reminiscent of that old non-pc joke about how to make a
Venitian
>> >> >> >> Blind! Sooner him than I!! ;o)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Chris.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2009/1/27 Roger Chinchilla <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Only way I know is these specials glasses I saw on
amazon.com.
>> >> >> >>> They
>> >> >> >>> are
>> >> >> >>> good
>> >> >> >>> for you when you look at the screen a lot. Another way
to make
>> >> >> >>> text
>> >> >> >>> stand
>> >> >> >>> out is, close your eyes, put pressure on it with your
index
>> >> >> >>> finger
>> >> >> >>> for
>> >> >> >>> about
>> >> >> >>> 10 seconds, open your eyes and get really close to the
screen.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Hope that helps,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Roger
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On Jan 27, 2009, at 5:26 PM, matt cline <[email protected]
>
>> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> Hello, is there a way to highlight links w/o having to
hover
>> >> >> >>>> them
>> >> >> >>>> to
>> >> >> >>>> see
>> >> >> >>>> the highlights(so their easier to spot in the swfs)?
Thank
>> >> >> >>>> you.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
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