> On Apr 22, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Charles Srstka via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> One comment:
> 
> "In the most common case where a developer does not provide a custom 
> reference type, then the backing store is our existing NSData and 
> NSMutableData implementations. This consolidates logic into one place and 
> provides cheap bridging in many cases (see Bridging for more information).”
> 
> Would it not be more efficient to bridge to the C-based CFData and 
> CFMutableData implementations instead, to avoid the object overhead?

Actually it is often the case that the NS counterparts are faster than the CF 
versions (data being one of them).

> 
> Charles
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Tony Parker via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear swift-evolution denizens,
>> 
>> As you know from our announcement of Swift Open Source and our work on 
>> naming guidelines, one of our goals for Swift 3 is to “drop NS” for 
>> Foundation. We want to to make the cross-platform Foundation API that is 
>> available as part of swift-corelibs feel like it is not tied to just Darwin 
>> targets. We also want to reinforce the idea that new Foundation API must fit 
>> in with the language, standard library, and the rapidly evolving design 
>> patterns we see in the community.
>> 
>> You challenged us on one part of this plan: some Foundation API just doesn’t 
>> “feel Swifty”, and a large part of the reason why is that it often does not 
>> have the same value type behavior as other Swift types. We took this 
>> feedback seriously, and I would like to share with you the start of an 
>> important journey for some of the most commonly used APIs on all of our 
>> platforms: adopting value semantics for key Foundation types.
>> 
>> We have been working on this for some time now, and the set of diffs that 
>> result from this change is large. At this point, I am going to focus effort 
>> on an overview of the high level goals and not the individual API of each 
>> new type. In order to focus on delivering something up to our quality 
>> standards, we are intentionally leaving some class types as-is until a 
>> future proposal. If you don’t see your favorite class on the list — don’t 
>> despair. We are going to iterate on this over time. I see this as the start 
>> of the process.
>> 
>> One process note: we are still trying to figure out the best way to 
>> integrate changes to API that ship as part of the operating system (which 
>> includes Foundation) into the swift-evolution review process. 
>> Swift-evolution is normally focused on changes to functionality in the 
>> compiler or standard library. In general, I don’t expect all new Foundation 
>> API introduced in the Darwin/Objective-C framework to go through the open 
>> source process. However, as we’ve brought up this topic here before, I felt 
>> it was important to bring this particular change to the swift-evolution list.
>> 
>> As always I welcome your feedback.
>> 
>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0069-swift-mutability-for-foundation.md
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> - Tony
>> 
>> 
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