> On Apr 29, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Jordan Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> [Proposal: 
> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0072-eliminate-implicit-bridging-conversions.md]
>  
> <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0072-eliminate-implicit-bridging-conversions.md]>
> 
> I’m a little concerned about the affect this has on “plist literals”. 
> Specifically, I can no longer construct a dictionary like this:
> 
> let userInfo: [String: AnyObject] = [
>       kSomeStandardKey: self.name, // a String
>       kAnotherKey: self.childNames // an Array of Strings
> ]
> NSNotificationCenter.default().postNotificationName(MyNotification, self, 
> userInfo)
> 
> The fix isn’t that hard—just add “as NSString” or “as NSArray”—but it is a 
> bit of extra noise that we currently don’t have. If the type checker can 
> still offer that fix-it, then I’m not sure we’d actually get any compiler 
> simplification out of it…although I suppose it might make the happy path 
> faster.
> 
> The CFString issue Jacob brought up is also a little unfortunate, although 
> that’s about the direction that already requires an explicit coercion. But 
> this probably affects calling CF functions that take CFStrings, since IIRC we 
> don’t treat that the same as NSString at the moment, and CFArray will never 
> have generics.
> 
> Of course, I’ve been out of the Cocoa community for a while now, so I don’t 
> really have a sense of how often this comes up in practice, and how much the 
> explicit coercion costs (psychologically). So I’m with Brent: do we have 
> information on the changes needed for real-world projects?

As part of the initial RFC, I pushed the inhibit-implicit-conversions branch, 
which folks should feel free to experiment with on their own codebases. In the 
meantime, I’m gathering some data on the outward-facing impact of these changes.

Thanks,
- Joe

> 
> Jordan
> 
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2016, at 13:54, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Swift community,
>> 
>> The review of "SE-0072: Fully eliminate implicit bridging conversions from 
>> Swift" begins now and runs through May 2. The proposal is available here:
>> 
>>      
>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0072-eliminate-implicit-bridging-conversions.md
>>  
>> <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0072-eliminate-implicit-bridging-conversions.md>
>> 
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>> What goes into a review?
>> 
>> The goal of the review process is to improve the proposal under review 
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>> 
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