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> On May 27, 2016, at 2:25 AM, Austin Zheng <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Would you be willing to elaborate? Are you thinking of model objects whose 
> properties are all completely hidden using 'private' and whose APIs are 
> available only through methods? What if there existed something like 
> "private(reflectable)", for properties you really want to keep both private 
> and exposed to the reflection machinery? Or maybe a property behavior to do 
> the same thing once that feature becomes a reality...

'private(reflectable)' would mean private for the purpose of reflection if we 
follow the same interpretation as 'private(set)'.  Maybe you meant 'private 
public(reflectable)' - as in private, but public for the purpose of reflection 
only.

> 
> Austin
> 
> 
>> On May 26, 2016, at 11:52 PM, David Hart <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 May 2016, at 04:44, Austin Zheng via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My personal preference would be to honor access control, and consider 
>>> ser/de separately (especially since there are so many other possible 
>>> considerations for that feature). Access control in Swift isn't just 
>>> another safety feature, it's also a boundary for things like the optimizer.
>>> 
>>> To be honest, I expect the first big use of a feature like this to be 
>>> turning JSON or XML received from a network call into model objects for an 
>>> app. There are quite a few Objective-C libraries that use KVC to implement 
>>> this functionality.
>> 
>> That's what I want to use it for and I'm fairly sure we need access to 
>> private properties for that.
> 

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