> On Jun 1, 2016, at 6:26 AM, Matthew Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Joe Groff via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 31, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Austin Zheng <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree that this is a better design for Swift than the monstrosity I 
>>> started out with.
>>> 
>>> The "biggest" technical challenge I see is being able to type a reduction 
>>> sort of operator on a heterogenous tuple based on on whatever protocols and 
>>> constraints are common to its constituent members. For example:
>>> 
>>> // Every Tn in T... is Fooable and Barrable
>>> let x : (T...)
>>> reduce(x, reducer, startingValue)
>>> 
>>> func reducer<X : ???>(startingValue: U, eachMemberOfT: X) -> U { ... }
>>> 
>>> How do we bound ??? such that 'reducer' is useful while still being 
>>> statically type sound? Honestly, that's the most interesting question to 
>>> me. Generalized existentials might help with that.
>> 
>> If every T is Fooable and Barrable, couldn't `eachMemberOfT` be (inout U, 
>> protocol<Fooable, Barrable>) -> ()?
>> 
>>> Other questions (inherent to any proposal) would be:
>>> 
>>> - How do we resolve the impedance mismatch between tuples and function 
>>> argument lists? Is it even worth trying to resolve this mismatch, given 
>>> that argument lists are intentionally not intended to mirror tuples?
>> 
>> The impedance mismatch between function arguments and tuples is superficial. 
>> You ought to be able to splat and bind tuples into function arguments, e.g.:
>> 
>>      let args = (1, 2)
>>      foo(bar:bas:)(args...)
>> 
>>      func variadicFn<T: Runcible...>(_ args: T...) { … }
> 
> Going this direction is relatively straightforward.  The impedance mismatch 
> is trickier when you want to do more than that.  For example, it would be 
> extremely useful to come up with some way to wrap a function that has 
> parameters with default arguments without requiring callers of the wrapped 
> function to supply arguments for the defaulted parameters.  Any ideas on how 
> to solve that?

As Chris noted, that sounds like a great use case for a macro. Trying to do 
that with the type system feels like it's on the wrong side of the complexity 
threshold to me.

-Joe

>> 
>>> - As you said, how do variadic generics work in the 0- and 1-member cases?
>> 
>> What problem are you referring to?
>> 
>> -Joe
>> 
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