> On Jun 14, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution > <[email protected]> wrote: > > As you will see from earlier messages, the confused user is both quite real > and *is* on this list. Nor, mind you, are pedagogical concerns to be > trivialized; they are serious concerns for the design of the language. On > what grounds do you assert that something is "not confusing at all" when > there has been testimony saying "it was confusing to me"? > > Some of us on this list interact regularly with novice coders. I draw upon > these experiences here. Do you have some special insight you'd like to share > in that regard? > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 20:57 Jon Akhtar <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > How about the goal of it being a delightful language to program in. I think > that is getting lost in proposals like these. Optimizing for some mythical > new user, who really isn’t present on this list to give an opinion seems like > a false argument to make, and your technical sophistication makes you a less > qualified than most to say what is and what isn’t confusing to new users > because you haven’t been one in a long time. > > -1 Leve it in. It is perfectly simple as is. Not confusing at all. There are > far more confusing aspects to the language than this. > > Cheers
Yet another case from a few minutes ago: rullie <member:rullie>: hi, could someone walk me through this http://pastie.org/10887040 <http://pastie.org/10887040> [3:08pm] rullie <member:rullie>: why is it that for loop through an lazy infinite sequence does not terminate even with the where clause invovled? [ [3:08pm] mikeash <member:mikeash>: "where" means "skip iterations when this condition is not true" [3:08pm] mikeash <member:mikeash>: it doesn't mean "halt the loop when this is not true" [3:08pm] rullie <member:rullie>: oh whoa.. ok [3:09pm] mikeash <member:mikeash>: it can't know that you'll never see another value < 100, so <member:so> it keeps on going [3:09pm] rullie <member:rullie>: ok, i completely misunderstood the where clause then [3:10pm] mikeash <member:mikeash>: I can see how it might look like it does that [3:10pm] rullie <member:rullie>: is there a syntax that achieves what i want to do without having to have a if-break in the loop? -- E p.s. Posted with permission from both participants
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