If you see such a drastic slowdown, then tat sounds like a critical regression 
that you found in the latest beta.  We would really appreciate a bug report 
(radar or jira) with a testcase!

-Chris

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'd like to echo Muse's point. Accelerate is no solution: it's not available 
> on Linux (and cross-platform numerics is very much essential for the 
> sciences--I assume engineering and finance as well); moreover, it doesn't 
> solve the issue of, as you point out, other kinds of math.
> 
> The appeal to me of Swift was that it promised a memory-safe-by-default 
> systems programming language, a compiled language with performance that can 
> be in the same ballpark as C. So while specialized libraries like BLAS can 
> speed up matrix algebra considerably, IMO, the same kinds of math that are 
> done in C or Go or Rust without calling BLAS should perform roughly 
> equivalently when ported to Swift. That it doesn't should be a bug, and the 
> workaround shouldn't have to be dropping down to or calling out to libraries 
> written in C or Fortran.
> 
> Recently, I discovered that a straightforward numerics algorithm that only 
> adds, divides, multiplies, and compares floating point values slowed down 
> five to ten *times* between preview 3 and preview 4. This was stunning--and 
> if performance ever was comparable to C before (I didn't check for this 
> particular function), I know for sure that it isn't anymore! Although I'm 
> confident that the underlying cause will be found, it does raise questions as 
> to the continued wisdom of writing even somewhat performance-sensitive math 
> in Swift.
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 20:04 Saagar Jha via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well, it depends on what kind of Math you’re trying to do. The Accelerate 
>> framework is available if you need performance.
>> 
>> Saagar Jha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 18:01, Muse M via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have always wonder why Maths in Swift is slower than C and Go, it should be 
>>> address with priority if Swift is to be adopt for engineering, financial 
>>> and science industry.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Charlie Monroe via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> See 
>>>> https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20160725/025711.html
>>>> 
>>>> From what I understand, the discussion should stay focused on the main 
>>>> topics for Swift 4 that Chris highlighted in 
>>>> https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20160725/025676.html
>>>> 
>>>> I had several ideas in mind, but am postponing them for Swift 5, seeing 
>>>> the schedule...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Anton Zhilin via swift-evolution 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was stated that 27th of July was the last date for proposal 
>>>>> acceptance, 29th of July was the last day for implementation, and 1th of 
>>>>> August should be the starting day of Swift 3.1-related discussions.
>>>>> Am I right? Should we begin?
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