> On 2 Nov 2016, at 20:54, Slava Pestov <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Paul Cantrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Slava Pestov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Paul Cantrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 5:09 AM, Slava Pestov via swift-evolution 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> However protocols nested inside types and types nested inside protocols 
>>>>> is still not supported, because protocols introduce a separate series of 
>>>>> issues involving associated types and the ’Self’ type.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The hard part of getting nested generics right is what to do if a nested 
>>>>> type ‘captures’ generic parameters of the outer type. For non-protocol 
>>>>> types, the behavior here is pretty straightforward.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we allow protocols to be nested inside other types, we have to decide 
>>>>> what to do if the protocol ‘closes over’ generic parameters of the outer 
>>>>> type. For example,
>>>>> 
>>>>> struct A<T> {
>>>>> protocol P {
>>>>> func requirement() -> T
>>>>> }
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> Presumably A<Int>.P and A<String>.P are distinct types, and A.P has a 
>>>>> hidden associated type corresponding to the type parameter ’T’?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The other case is problematic too — the nested type might refer to an 
>>>>> associated type of the outer protocol:
>>>>> 
>>>>> protocol P {
>>>>> associatedtype A
>>>>> 
>>>>> struct T {
>>>>> var value: A
>>>>> }
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now writing P.T does not make sense, for the same reason that we cannot 
>>>>> form an existential of type P.A. We could prohibit references to outer 
>>>>> associated types of this form, or we could figure out some way to give it 
>>>>> a meaning. If C is a concrete type conforming to P, then certainly C.T 
>>>>> makes sense, for instance. Internally, the nested type A.T could have a 
>>>>> hidden ‘Self’ generic type parameter, so that writing C.T is really the 
>>>>> same as P.T<C>.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Protocols nested inside protocols also have the same issue.
>>>> 
>>>> FWIW, in almost all the situations where I’ve wanted to nest types inside 
>>>> protocols and generic types, it’s only as a namespacing convenience. Most 
>>>> often, it’s an enum type that’s used only by a single method, and having 
>>>> it at the top of the module namespace adds clutter.
>>>> 
>>>> Here’s a real life example pared down. I wish I could do this:
>>>> 
>>>> public struct ResponseContentTransformer<InputContentType, 
>>>> OutputContentType>: ResponseTransformer {
>>>> 
>>>>   public init(onInputTypeMismatch mismatchAction: InputTypeMismatchAction 
>>>> = .error) {
>>>>     ...
>>>>   }
>>>> 
>>>>   public enum InputTypeMismatchAction {  // Does not depend on generic 
>>>> types above
>>>>     case error
>>>>     case skip
>>>>     case skipIfOutputTypeMatches
>>>>   }
>>>> 
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> InputTypeMismatchAction is tightly associated with 
>>>> ResponseContentTransformer, and is confusing as a top-level type.
>>>> 
>>>> What do you think about providing a “no captures” modifier for nested 
>>>> types — like static inner classes in Java? Then Swift could provide the 
>>>> namespace nesting I wish for this without having to resolve the trickier 
>>>> type capture questions yet.
>>>> 
>>>> Alternatively, what if (1) outer types aren’t capture unless they’re 
>>>> referenced, and (2) nesting is only illegal if there’s a capture? Then my 
>>>> code above would compile, as would this:
>>>> 
>>>> public struct S<T> {
>>>>   public enum Foo {
>>>>     case yin
>>>>     case yang
>>>>   }
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> …but this wouldn’t:
>>>> 
>>>> public struct S<T> {
>>>>   public enum Foo {
>>>>     case yin(thing: T)  // capture of T illegal (for now)
>>>>     case yang
>>>>   }
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> Either of these approaches would allow hygienic namespacing now while 
>>>> leaving the door open to outer type capture in the future.
>>> 
>>> Yeah, this makes sense for a first cut at this feature.
>>> 
>>> Slava
>> 
>> Should I take a crack at writing up a proposal for this? Now? After ABI work 
>> is done? (Probably the latter “OK if no captures” approach?) Eager to help; 
>> don’t want to be in the way.
> 
> Just speaking for myself and not the whole team — I think you can submit the 
> proposal at any time, we’re unlikely to get around to doing it, if you want 
> to take a crack that would be great (again, with ‘no captures’ it’s 
> “trivial”).
> 
> Slava
> 
>> 
>> P


Sorry, let this slip. Proposal sent - 
https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/pull/552

- Karl
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