> On Dec 2, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Xiaodi Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure why that last scenario couldn't be accommodated by submodules. 
> Why wouldn't you put those two specific submodules in the same parent 
> submodule?

Why even have private and fileprivate? Why not just make everything internal?  
Same reason…



> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 15:35 Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Assuming that this is true (I tend to agree), why do we need any extra syntax 
> at all?  Couldn’t we just make everything accessible to extensions?
> 
> Alternatively, if we do want to hide some things from extensions by default 
> (to prevent accidental use), I had a proposal a while back which had a very 
> simple way to control what is shared. Basically, you could have a special 
> import statement which allows you to extend knowledge/access of the hidden 
> parts to another file (you were also able to limit the range of this ability 
> if needed).
> 
> Most of the feedback at the time seemed to want submodules instead, but I 
> still think there will still eventually be a need for something like this. As 
> others have mentioned, the current system is inflexible (especially to the 
> common use cases), causing people to keep requesting additions… and forcing 
> them to give wider access than they want to in the mean time.  Even if we 
> have sub-modules, someone will want to share with a specific other 
> sub-module, but not make things public.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Tino Heth via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> It also means that anybody who want to access your private var will just 
>>> have to write an extension to expose it.
>> imho this is wrong thinking:
>> Access control is no tool to offer real "protection" — it can't stop someone 
>> who wants to break a system.
>> Especially in the world of open source, it is merely an advice from the 
>> author not to do certain things.
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