> On 27 Jan 2017, at 22:25, Slava Pestov <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Karl Wagner via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> So, 2 quick points:
>> 
>> 1) I have often wanted a shorthand for expressing long tuples; I definitely 
>> think that’s something worth bike-shedding, e.g. - (String * 4, Int32 * 4) 
>> or something
> 
> Why not define a struct, or a tuple consisting of two arrays?

Because I want a fixed-length guarantee; ([String], [Int]) could have any 
number of Strings or Ints.
It’s just a shorthand for defining long or complex tuples; we currently import 
C arrays as massive tuples which can be basically impossible to read.

> 
>> 2) Having a special non-growing array type which is called “array” and 
>> separate from Array<T> is not such a good idea IMO. I would rather allow 
>> tuples to conform to protocols (see: 
>> https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/docs/GenericsManifesto.md#extensions-of-structural-types
>>  
>> <https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/docs/GenericsManifesto.md#extensions-of-structural-types>).
>> 
>> If tuples could conform to protocols, we could say “any tuple of homogenous 
>> elements is a Collection”. There would be benefits for the standard library, 
>> too - EmptyCollection<T> would disappear, replaced with the empty tuple (),
> 
> This sounds too clever.

Yeah… the cleverness is one of things I like about it. We get to remove these 
canned conformances and reduce the stdlib surface area while gaining an 
efficient way to express a fixed-size Collection. It would come with all kinds 
of supplementary benefits, such as iterating and mapping the elements of a 
tuple.

> 
>> as would CollectionOfOne<T>, to be replaced by a single-element tuple (T).
> 
> For what it’s worth, Swift doesn’t have single-element tuples. (T) is just 
> sugar for the type T itself.

Would it be unreasonable to separate those, so that (T) is separate from T 
instead of being a synonym for it? There is some awkwardness with tuples due to 
legacy designs. Perhaps this would help clean it up a little (or perhaps make 
it worse, who knows?)

For source compatibility, we could allow an implicit conversion; in the same 
way that a T can be implicitly “promoted" to an Optional<T>, it could be 
implicitly “promoted” to a single-element tuple of T (and vice-versa).

> 
>> We would also be able to remove our limited-arity == overloads in favour of 
>> actual, honest-to-goodness Equatable conformance.
> 
> I like this idea though.
> 
>> 
>> - Karl
>>  
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